People are just being misused to train their own replacement.
Always thought Meta was a god awful run company and this just brings home the cake
Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training
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#242Growing up we learned about _Slaughterhouse 5_ and _Cat's Cradle_ by Kurt Vonnegut. But there's not enough discussion or awareness of _Player Piano_. Incredibly prescient. These kinds of dystopic headlines are exactly the kind of thing you'd see in the book.
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#243This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.
Meta employees are not typically known for their deep concerns about privacy.
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#244Yeah, this is crazy, remember when engineers were actually engineers and that meant something? Imagine asking to install spyware on your lawyers' firms' company laptops because you didn't trust them not to make some deal with the judge. Or demanding 24 hour monitoring on everything a doctor does because you need to review the footage at any time. EDIT: While we are here, let's do this for politicians as well :), publ…
Notably, I’ve had several lawyers sell me out. It’s not the emails, but the phone calls you need to worry about.
How do you mean? They violated attorney-client privelege?
Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training
#245Yeah, this is crazy, remember when engineers were actually engineers and that meant something? Imagine asking to install spyware on your lawyers' firms' company laptops because you didn't trust them not to make some deal with the judge. Or demanding 24 hour monitoring on everything a doctor does because you need to review the footage at any time. EDIT: While we are here, let's do this for politicians as well :), publ…
Notably, I’ve had several lawyers sell me out. It’s not the emails, but the phone calls you need to worry about.
Can add any detail to "sell you out"? Was it explicit violation of expected privacy of the conversation?
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#246Do most people who work in AI companies realize that if this buildup of reasoning models succeeds at what every tech CEO is aiming for, all of them will be out of a job?
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people. My irony detector is sparking so badly I think it's about to blow.
There are large organizations at Meta focused on basic research & design (FAIR, Open Compute, PyTorch, etc) and giving back to the community. Not everyone is maximizing revenue.
There are also large organizations at Meta focussed on the optimal distribution of scam ads to the elderly.
https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-is-earning-fortu...
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are the same employees that willfully code the largest spy network on the planet, so it seems like they are willing to believe a lot
Are they merging with Palantir any time soon?
I'd argue Meta is much worse:
Palantir builds these systems for the US government which is (hopefully) something you can hold accountable / can reasonably trust.
Meta builds these systems for itself to make digital cocaine and sell personal data to profit off everyone (including and moreso primarily the elderly and children). You can't hold them accountable, actually pretty much nobody can hold Zuckerberg accountable.
When Palantir helps USG spy on the planet the primary purpose is defeat enemies + protect assets. When Meta builds these systems the primary purpose is digital cocaine.
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#249Do most people who work in AI companies realize that if this buildup of reasoning models succeeds at what every tech CEO is aiming for, all of them will be out of a job?
Yes! That is exactly why they talk about "the permeant underclass" and hold onto their RSUs.
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#250Fucking insane.
Optimizing ourselves to death.
Capitalism is asleep at the wheel with its foot stuck on the gas pedal.