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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by cjbconnor »

elschneider wrote: post #155
cjbconnor wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had completely the opposite experience. I've asked for it to research things and it's just told me to "paste xyz into google". Just now I revisited a chat that's 5 days old and asked it to check again (because what I was looking for might have changed), and it said "no".

It's funny how experiences can be so different. I wonder if this comes down to context. My interactions so far were fairly high-level and in some cases it having a strong opinion was actually super beneficial to the outcome. To me it seemed opinionated, but in a very good way. I can see how this could backfire though and have heard similar reports.

Curious to know what plan you're on? I was on the max 5x plan, but downgraded to pro a few days before the opus 4.7 release.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by npunt »

rustyhancock wrote: post #96
chewz wrote: post #11

Makes sense. It is over for the little guy - home enthusiasts and vibe coders. Too many of them saturating resources for Max users. IF you cannot afford few hundred dollars subscription go out and breathe fresh air. But if you can, watch where the ball is rolling - few thousand dollars subscriptions and even less programmers.

Hear HN tell of it, Claude pays for itself 3× over. Something tells me congitively it's making us misjudge how productive it's making us. It's clearly massively increasing output, but did the market already soak up all that productivity and now it's not compensated? If your salary is 50k. And Claude makes you 2x as productive, why aren't you earning 100k? Why is it anyone can't afford $200/mo if it's truely increasin…

Agree about psychological impact outpacing likely actual impact, but that’s a relatively temporary phenomena as we are all adapting to the new way things work.

Productivity wise employment is far more than code production productivity in a vacuum, and productivity gains are rarely captured by employees (see famous chart on worker productivity where that correlation changed around 1970). I wouldn’t expect to see much in the next 1-2 years besides noticing effective teams increasing velocity of features.

I think people in forums like complaining about things and aren’t representative of the broader set of people who are just using the tools, so no real paradox. For vast majority of tech jobs, $200/mo is still an absolute steal in terms of what these tools offer. Only the dullest of companies would not realize this.

Fwiw in the 80s-90s computers also didn’t really register in productivity metrics. Qualitative changes occur long before accurate measurement catches up.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by elschneider »

elschneider wrote: post #155
cjbconnor wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had completely the opposite experience. I've asked for it to research things and it's just told me to "paste xyz into google". Just now I revisited a chat that's 5 days old and asked it to check again (because what I was looking for might have changed), and it said "no".

It's funny how experiences can be so different. I wonder if this comes down to context. My interactions so far were fairly high-level and in some cases it having a strong opinion was actually super beneficial to the outcome. To me it seemed opinionated, but in a very good way. I can see how this could backfire though and have heard similar reports.

I'm on max 5x

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by nickthegreek »

ryanmcgarvey wrote: post #158

Everyone that is upset about this should take note: you are not a (coding) customer at $20/mo. Their coding customers spend thousands per month (week!) on claude and it's growing faster than they can keep up with (source: I'm one of them, and I know many other like me. We're budgeting 10-20% of engineering salary spend on tokens). It sucks to no longer be able to code on the cheap anymore, but don't fool yourself int…

My leverage is i’m canceling my plan. Openai gives me codex+chatgpt for my $20. I use my claude code sparingly, but I enjoyed it and it works great when I needed it. Access to it was a reason they got my money a few months ago and it’s been a shit show of reduction of services since.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by akucharczyk »

It cracks me up when I hear takes like - 'if you're not using more than $20, the product isn't for you because you're not a real user.' If you use CC as an assistant rather than a replacement for your own thinking, follow SDD, and use the tool thoughtfully, you deliver a lot more and you don't need the 5x or 20x limit. It's a different story if you're vibe coding, but then we're not really talking about AI-assisted work - your three prompts barely count as doing any work. I've been on Pro for 2 years, but if this is how things are going, I'll look for an alternative. Luckily, there's plenty to choose from.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by 2001zhaozhao »

Huh? I just don't understand why they're doing this. Feels like shooting themselves in the foot, given that Claude's individual subscribers are a large part of who is introducing all their enterprise customers to them. Plus removing access is never good for public perception.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by siva7 »

zormino wrote: post #145
robertkarl wrote: post #44

I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value. After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent datase…

I think removing Claude Code from the $20 tier is a terrible idea, I never would've gone from nothing right into the $100/200 tier. The $20 plan let me get my feet wet and see how good it could be, and in less than a week I was on the $100 plan. I think they need to at least have a 1 month introductory rate for the max plan at $20, or devs that decide to try out agentic coding just won't go to Anthropic. That leads t…

They're not losing anything. They have much more demand than they could ever fulfill to care anymore about promotional or subsidized user groups.
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