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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #7

Has anyone made the jump from a Mac to Framework as a daily driver? This is the first model to get my attention as a possible candidate for a full switch to Linux.

Tried once, not very fond of my FW 13" Intel 13th Gen 2. Mac superior in both hardware & software.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#423
I really like what Framwork has been doing, but I have an honest question: is 20 hours of Netflix 4k streaming at 250nit and 30% volume a spec to show off? I genuinely don't know.

I thought most modern laptops have dedicated video decode hardware that is fairly easy on battery. At only 250nit though...that seems dim by today's standards. I'm happy to be wrong though!

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#424
post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buying a Mac is also a single transaction. Yes, they have lots of other services they want to sell you on but you're in no way obliged to take them up on it.

I don't want to use a computer whose greatest aspiration is to be a sales funnel even if I am personally strong-willed enough to say no when nagged.

You’re imagining a “greatest aspiration” that doesn’t exist. macOS has an iCloud login button in the Settings app and that’s about it.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I not? I'm trying my best here. The question is sort of off-target, though. What I am trying to say is: 1) DDR uses more power than LPDDR; 2) LPDDR cannot work on a DIMM socket, because of its lower voltage signals, and other reasons; 3) SO-DIMMs always contain the higher power DDR; QED) if you insist on SO-DIMMs, then you have to spend more energy.

Rohansi was basically asking 'why', you keep on reiterating that DDR uses more power than LPDDR, but fail to answer why this is the case. Is it clock speed? Is it voltage? Is it a protocol/specification difference? 'various reasons' is not an answer.

LPDDR is very different from DDR so I don't really feel like diving into it in this tiny box. It has its own oscillators so the CPU doesn't have to clock it while asleep; it adaptively refreshes less often according to temperature; during self-refresh the cells are charged to a lower voltage that wouldn't really work for high-speed I/O but works fine for retention.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#426
post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

This looks suspiciously like something I could buy : a lightweight well made Linux laptop, with long battery life. I currently use a MacBook and won’t get near a windows machine. Two questions 1/ will there be a 15 inches version ? ( I’m not getting any younger I like bigger screens ) 2/ software-wise how reliable are the suspend/resume and all the laptop features ? I’ve been using Linux for about 30y and to me this…

As other comments have noted, we have Framework Laptop 16 for folks who want bigger screens, and we had some updates for that product today too: haptic touchpad option and an entry-level Ryzen 5 version.

We've been sending pre-release hardware to developers at a bunch of distros to make sure that the core use cases like suspend/resume work as expected out of the box. You can check our general Linux support at frame.work/linux

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#428
post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

All the battery life stats use Windows for testing. How does the equivalent Linux performance compare?

We're going to publish more Linux benchmarks as well. We have s0ix noted (7 days), and we're trying to make some more repeatable productivity-oriented workflows for Linux to use. We expect that Phoronix will publish some pretty thorough power efficiency tests too. We'll certainly be providing them with review hardware.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#429
post #138

I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. The case is warped in multiple places. One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. On the plus side, my partner had one and when she threw it away she gave me he…

That's rough. Did you contact their support about it? I measure a lot of companies by how they handle recovering from stuff like this.

I contacted their support because my charging cable frayed and I thought I was still in warranty. Turns out I'd miscalculated and I was a year out but they replaced it for free anyway.

Their support has been very responsive and helpful every time I've contacted them so I'd be surprised if they wouldn't have helped the GP.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#430

It's beautiful. Just got a Framework 13 a few months ago, so I can't justify buying a pro just to get it in black... right?

I think the pro is enough of an upgrade that it would pay for itself over the course of a year or so. It'd be practical and responsible for you to switch.

(Now you have to validate the next person's justification when it comes up again.)

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