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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

I’d prefer a non-touchscreen. Touchscreen does add about 200g of weight. Is that likely to be an option?

The touchscreen is backward-compatible with the old/regular FW13, so I imagine the regular FW13 screen is forward-compatible with the Pro. (Of course, I don't know if they'll sell that configuration or if you'd have to cobble it together from the marketplace.)

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#252
post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

I preordered a 13 Pro with Ryzen, which I'm already very excited about. Reading between the lines of your video announcement, though, it seems like the Intel experience might be more optimal (you pointed out Intel's new low power efficiency cores and Dolby sound being tested with Intel).

If I want the best battery life and sound possible with Linux, should I switch my preorder to Intel?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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"pro" in the name, without ECC ram is a travesty

I hope you’re being sarcastic because if not you’re delisional to expect ECC ram in a laptop. You’re going to pile up software updates that you should absolutely reboot for long before a comic ray causes a meaningful bit flip. ECC is only worthwhile in servers and is a waste of money otherwise, especially since “pro” for laptop = prosumer device.

If you don’t reboot your laptop in years where ECC matters I’m not sure how to help you.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

I’d prefer a non-touchscreen. Touchscreen does add about 200g of weight. Is that likely to be an option?

> Touchscreen does add about 200g of weight.

200g is weight of a smartphone, there's no way touch weighs that much.

Framework 13 Pro screen seems to have plastic surface as before, not glass-laminated (which I guess could add 200g, but it's not a requirement for laptop touchscreen)

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#257
post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

Does the Dolby treatment carry into Linux with comparable performance, or does "best sound" require Windows?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

Hey Nirav, congrats on the newest release and I'm really eyeing the 13 Pro.

A couple of questions:

1. How are the thermals? I've had mixed experiences with my 11th gen FW 13 throttling under load with the fan sounding noisy. It's fine if I'm alone but if I'm at a team gathering, it's noticeably loud.

2. Does the lid open with one hand?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everything that isn’t a MacBook will be more expensive than a MacBook Unrelated, but never thought I’d see this kind of sentiment

It's specifically aimed at Framework, though, not PCs in general. Framework is very much a premium brand (where the premium experience is centred on repairability/upgradeability), and don't have the economies of scale Apple do. It's natural that they'd end up being more expensive.

> not PCs in general

Yeah, I’m assuming just the one of the various tiers here that’s in the same bucket as MacBooks, and that we’re generally talking devices that are specialty-capable; such as media production or Linux development or gaming or what have you. If you lump the entire “portable screen bigger than nine? inches and with an in-box physical keyboard and pointer controller” market together, you’ll disregard ‘glorified word processors’ that cost a couple hundred bucks (before the RAM underproduction grift) in their own specialty niche. Framework isn’t competing there, right? (I could have missed something..)

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