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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by 4k93n2 »

kingsleyopara wrote: post #14

I really want to love this thing but at least in the UK, matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter) MacBook P…

how would they compare over 10-15 years though. with one you are able to swap out the motherboard when you want an upgrade and with the other you have to buy a completely new device.

then when it comes to repairing broken parts they are on opposite ends of the scale where apple actually go out of their way to make it harder for you to do that and its probably more expensive as well since only apple certified repair shops have access to certain parts

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Post by Agingcoder »

nrp wrote: post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

This looks suspiciously like something I could buy : a lightweight well made Linux laptop, with long battery life. I currently use a MacBook and won’t get near a windows machine.

Two questions 1/ will there be a 15 inches version ? ( I’m not getting any younger I like bigger screens ) 2/ software-wise how reliable are the suspend/resume and all the laptop features ? I’ve been using Linux for about 30y and to me this is typically the bits that usually fail. To put it differently, how confident are you that things will work properly out of the box ?

Other than that , I love what you’re doing, please continue.

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Post by jordand »

pojntfx wrote: post #9

I'm really looking forward to having this as the go-to laptop to recommend to devs again. The original Framework chassis was really showing it's age next to e.g. a MacBook Pro or the new XPS 14. Having mainline Linux on a system with 24h+ battery life in a 13" case is pretty damn impressive.

The LPCAMM2 memory is both the biggest plus for me, and the biggest challenge for it given how rare it is to find in stock, and the premium price over LPDDR5 and crazy prices of it.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

Anonyneko wrote: post #33
Neikius wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does MBP run Linux? That would be the selling point for me ... But I guess I am not in a big group. Also MBP is not really repairable at all.

M1 and M2 models run Asahi Linux, M3 and M4 don't run anything natively I think (but not entirely sure).

How is Thunderbolt or display port alt mode support?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by Lammy »

afavour wrote: post #107
Lammy wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dumb comparison, because buying a Framework is a single transaction where I exchange money for a computer, and buying a Mac is an entrypoint to “The Ecosystem” where Apple wants to squeeze me for $ /month forever. Peep the margins on “Products” versus “Services” and you will understand what Apple's incentives are and why just selling me hardware isn't it: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2026-q1/FY26_Q1_Consol..…

Buying a Mac is also a single transaction. Yes, they have lots of other services they want to sell you on but you're in no way obliged to take them up on it.

I don't want to use a computer whose greatest aspiration is to be a sales funnel even if I am personally strong-willed enough to say no when nagged.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by biehl »

iknowstuff wrote: post #80
jwcooper wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was on a Macbook Pro (multiple models for many years) and jumped to the 12th gen intel framework. It is fantastic laptop, just showing its age a bit (mostly battery life as I still have the smaller battery and 12th gen intel wasn't that great for battery). I upgraded the screen and speakers, nothing else really needed changing throughout the years. I was so tired of the bad docker performance on macOS that I went t…

Did you try OrbStack on macOS before switching? Wondering if it would still bother you

The new container tool is also very nice on MacOS

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by fl13p »

nrp wrote: post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

Is the keyboard for the 13 pro the same?

The upgrade kits I'm seeing on the marketplace have a keyboard included.

Would it be possible to have a input cover pro, bottom cover pro, batteries pro, speakers pro and use my existing keyboard?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by dangus »

I was sure they’d deliver Panther Lake but didn’t think it would have LPCAMM.

I thought they’d either solder the memory or skip out on delivering the good integrated graphics from the X SKUs.

I’m stunned in a good way. This is a MacBook Pro killer for the nerdier end of Apple’s market.

The fact that you mostly can pick and choose your upgrades to Pro is really cool, too.

The mid-tier X7 board sold alone seems like a great value and it would be a pretty solid uplift to the old system.

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