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Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Post by masukomi »

runjake wrote: post #19
radley wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're thinking either/or instead of "finishing the job". When you dive into a mud pit, do you wipe yourself off with paper towels until you're done, or do you use a bit of soap & water?

I think you completely missed his point.

I can confirm @aptimpropriety's claim after having tested this in bidets in multiple countries. It doesn't matter how high you turn on the water pressure, if you grab a piece of toilet paper afterwards it seems to always find some... remainders.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Post by ComputerGuru »

$15 in parts from your local hardware store gets you the basic tools you need to build a water-powered hygiene system.

All you need is the "spray head" with flexible hose [0], plus the adaptor to make a kitchen part fit the bathroom piping (for some reason, kitchen and bathroom have non-interchangeable parts).

You hang it on a hook next to the toilet, and you use it to clean yourself. I cannot live without these, and I intensely regret any overnight trips to a hotel or other place that does not have such an amenity. I regularly recommend and sometimes even buy and install these for friends and family.

The USA is still living in the dark ages when it comes to some parts of self-hygiene.

0: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21PJ48yqYmL._SL500_AA3...

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Post by ceejayoz »

eropple wrote: post #30
runjake wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the full article, only the cheapo, probably ineffective solutions cost $100, you're looking more at $500 and up for a good unit. And if you want a warmer, you'll need a GFCI outlet installed next to the toilet, which most US homes do not have. You'll want a warmer in many areas of the US during the winter. So you're looking at quite a bit of cash there. Edit: Please read what I wrote. I'm not saying most…

Most ? Maybe it's just because I live in the Northeast, but I've only very rarely seen a bathroom that did not have a GFCI outlet. (My current apartment has four: two in the bathroom, two in the kitchen.)

That, plus they cost about $10 and can be self-installed.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Post by Reltair »

swampthing wrote: post #4

I might in the paranoid minority on this, but here are some concerns I have: * How does the toilet know that everything is clean? With toilet paper, you can just wipe with new toilet paper until there is no more residue. * What is the algorithm for the toilet's spraying? Does it end up spreading diluted feces around, or is it careful to spray outward-in? * What happens if feces end up on the nozzle? Is there some kin…

When I went to Japan and used the public toilets there, the nozzles would first go through an auto-cleaning process when you sat down.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Post by tadfisher »

runjake wrote: post #25
jadc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article, there are devices that could be attached to existing toilet seats that cost 100$ or less. If they do work well (article claims that they have good reviews), then cost is not an issue.

If you read the full article, only the cheapo, probably ineffective solutions cost $100, you're looking more at $500 and up for a good unit. And if you want a warmer, you'll need a GFCI outlet installed next to the toilet, which most US homes do not have. You'll want a warmer in many areas of the US during the winter. So you're looking at quite a bit of cash there. Edit: Please read what I wrote. I'm not saying most…

It's part of the international, federal, and most state building codes to have GFCI in all bathrooms and kitchens (any place where there is a water fixture). You're right though that most homes do not have an outlet near the toilet.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Post by arrrg »

patio11 wrote: post #5

Toto's primary sales channel is "If you build a house or office in Japan and don't specifically talk to your architect/contractor about your post-bowel movement preferences we will take the liberty of using the most current model Toto has available and then invoice you cost plus labor plus 50%." Toto does not have that relationship with the person responsible for picking your toilet. Why does Toto have that relations…

People don’t pick the toilets in their houses? I find that hard to imagine.

People not picking the pipes or bricks that are used I can see, but the toilet? No way. Before I buy a toilet I want to at least sit on it and I cannot imagine anyone feeling any other way about that.

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