Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#202Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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No, it's just that it's confusing, because there are two ways of using Claude Code credentials: 1. Take the oauth credentials and roll your own agent -- this is NOT allowed 2. Run your agentic application directly in Claude Code -- this IS allowed When OpenClaw says "Open-Claw style CLI usage", it means literally running OpenClaw in an official Claude Code session. Anthropic has no problems with this, this is complia…
But... Even when running it in mode 2 ("claude -p") they at certain points tried to detect OpenClaw-usage based prompts made, and blocked them [0]. Now OpenClaw says that Antrophic sanctions this as allowable again. I agree with GP that this is hard to take seriously. [0]: https://x.com/steipete/status/2040811558427648357
But then the Claude Code product manager said:
> This is not intentional, likely an overactive abuse classifier. Looking, and working on clarifying the policy going forward.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#204Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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Many people likely objected to the original restriction because it seemed as though Anthropic was trying to impede the development of competing tools. If I'm paying for compute, why should it matter whether I use Anthropic's harness (e.g., Claude Code) or a 3rd-party harness?
I find it a little bizarre that people have this expectation. You can still pay for compute and use it the way you want by paying for the product you actually want to use. Subscription products like this are not marketed or intended to be used as access to the API, but they also offer access to the API if that's what you want. I'm still not entirely clear why people insist on using their subscription like this, so le…
Well, enough people complained that Anthropic reversed their stance. Additionally, their primary competitor doesn't have any compute restrictions, which should help clarify why this decision was made.
As someone who has been building ML/AI tools (@ MS & Apple) for almost 25 years, I can say that much of the value of the underlying model comes from the harness. Why shouldn't I be able to use the exact same compute with my own bespoke harness when the compute cost is the same?
The Claude Code team continues to push out half-baked features that literally hamper my ability to use their tools.
If I'm paying $200/month for compute, I should be able to use it however I like.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#206Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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I’ve been using Codex Pro since they lobotomized Opus 4.6. Codex is so much better, GPT 5.4 xhigh fast is definitely the smartest and fastest model available. For a while there I had both Opus 4.6 and Codex access and I frequently pitted them against each other, I never once saw Opus come out ahead. Opus was good as a reviewer though, but as an implementer it just felt lazy compared to 5.4 xhigh. One feature that I h…
Any alternative to Claude Design ? Tried Figma with Opus 4.6 but it doesn't come close in my experience. Codex is abysmal for UI design imo.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's just that it's confusing, because there are two ways of using Claude Code credentials: 1. Take the oauth credentials and roll your own agent -- this is NOT allowed 2. Run your agentic application directly in Claude Code -- this IS allowed When OpenClaw says "Open-Claw style CLI usage", it means literally running OpenClaw in an official Claude Code session. Anthropic has no problems with this, this is complia…
But... Even when running it in mode 2 ("claude -p") they at certain points tried to detect OpenClaw-usage based prompts made, and blocked them [0]. Now OpenClaw says that Antrophic sanctions this as allowable again. I agree with GP that this is hard to take seriously. [0]: https://x.com/steipete/status/2040811558427648357
The fault here is not with Anthropic. It lies with cowboy coders creating a system that violates a providers terms of service and creating an adverse relationship.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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I pay the $20 sub for all of the Frontier models and just hop between them as performance changes I will say that Codex high/x-high has consistently performed the best for me, but YMMV
See the thing is their storefront is so fucking vague. Right now I hit usage limits after about 4-6 messages during the day, depending on length. They say the low tier is 5x usage, so does that mean I can send 20-30 messages? Because that's not remotely worth $20 a month to me.
Funny thing (or I just imagined that), when I used ChatGPT for studying, it was quite generous about over usage. When I was just messing around, testing where the guardraila are or trying to get it to generate sexual prose about my siblings to send it to them for laughs, the limits were held much more strictly.
I remember when it went up from 25/3h to 50/3h. And I was like meh, because I've already used it over that limit multiple times.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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This is such a strange way for this to be announced. Why is openclaw telling us this? I wouldn't even trust it until Anthropic says so themselves.
That's the thing, it's not announced at all. The title is wrong. It's just OpenClaw people claiming "Anthropic told us it's fine".