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The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Let's be honest. If someone did send in the troops to restore order, people would be screaming "How dare you invade a sovereign country" or "You're only doing this because you want oil" or "The President wants to make Sudan the 51st state" or "You're wasting money and soldiers' lives messing around in a place most of us can't even put on a map" or "You're just doing whatever the Jews tell you to do."

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Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Can any downvoters explain the downvotes?

My comments always get downvoted. HN has more duplicate accounts / bot activity than you would think and they’re primarily used for sentiment suppression. Specifically anti imperialist / anti capitalist sentiment.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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western governments funding Israel? What western governments exactly? Isn't Israel capable of funding itself through its own economy?

America hands out military aid to Israel. Coupons that can be redeemed for weapons with American manufacturers. It’s a subsidy to Israel and to American military primes. This comes to billions each year. That’s one government though. I can’t think of any other western government funding Israel in a similar way.

Germany, Great Britain, Finland, many other European partners.

They are purchasing military equipment from Israel, funding their development. Many European institutions also have investments in Israel. And arms used in the Palestinian genocide are being produced in European countries.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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I mean the share of civilians killed in the war (by Israel) is over 80 percent of the total casualties. That is worse than the rate in WW2. In Ukraine it's under 5%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war

I deplore current Israeli policies, but Ukraine isn't disguising its war fighters as civilians like Hamas is, which is an important qualifier to your numbers.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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This is heartbreaking. Is there a place where I can donate? Will it help in anyway? Edit: Thank you for your responses. Ended up donating to Doctors without borders. Hope it reaches someone. I was going to say humans are really just wild animals but then i thought that would be a disrespect to wild animals.

Dont wanne be the devils advocate here, but reality is that even if you find something "looking legit" in terms of donation, especially in such regions the most money will be "lost" halfway, and even if some will reach the destination it is more than rare that it will even help to benefit those suffering, and not land in the pockets of a few "in power" or just used to buy more weapons to kill more people..... Yes hel…

That's overly cynical. Donating to local warlords / psuedogovernment actors can be sketchy. Donating to e.g., UNICEF is much more likely to produce good results for refugees, especially children and mothers.

I'm not aware of where to send money to stop wars - it's likely to have the opposite effect, sadly.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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What made the Israel-Palestine conflict profitable for influencers (initially on both sides, I’d guess mostly on the pro-Palestinian side now) before the Iran War that doesn’t apply to Sudan?

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Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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You can develop a country without extracting its wealth.

So work for free? Who would invest in facilities, develop workforces, etc, without a payoff?

How does China approach this?

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Well from a moral perspective our tax dollars are funding the weapons used in the conflict.

From moral perspective, the same entities (UAE, Qatar) who have done the most to raise the profile of the I/P conflict with funds and media campaigns are directly funding and sending weapons to the parties responsible for the genocide in Sudan. Which has much clearer properties of "genocide" than the I/P war, and killed 3 times as many people in the same timeframe despite having far more primitive and less powerful w…

> the same entities (UAE, Qatar) who have done the most to raise the profile of the I/P conflict with funds and media campaigns

Israel and its MSM media outlets in the west are the only people “raising the profile” of the colonization of Palestine. Every US politician promotes Israel to the point where they can hardly be said to represent American citizens. That is why people in the west stand against Zionism. It has nothing to do with Qatari boogeymen.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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I mean the share of civilians killed in the war (by Israel) is over 80 percent of the total casualties. That is worse than the rate in WW2. In Ukraine it's under 5%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war

I deplore current Israeli policies, but Ukraine isn't disguising its war fighters as civilians like Hamas is, which is an important qualifier to your numbers.

But Russia is doing exactly that systematically for years now, disguising as civilians. I'm also pretty sure Hamas isn't disguising themselves as children, who make up the largest share of the civilian victims.
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