Another place in San Francisco that has Japanese toilets? Our company, GREE International. And we're hiring :)
Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
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Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#12Every one of these articles gets the pitch of these toilets completely wrong - for every person, and in every scenario, these are not universally better. Consider the following experiment: Smear some mud on your arm. Now, using a jet stream the power of a squirt gun and very low precision, wash it all off in 10 seconds. Not so easy. Then - imagine if you put mud on a place with hair! Not only will it not be clean wit…
You're thinking either/or instead of "finishing the job".
When you dive into a mud pit, do you wipe yourself off with paper towels until you're done, or do you use a bit of soap & water?
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#13The US is a notoriously price-sensitive market. For a lot of folks, they wouldn't consider paying $1000+ for a toilet when the most basic American Standard can be found for about $125. A lot of people would find it hard to justify an order of magnitude price increase. I know Boston has a Toto showroom in its North End, but I really cant consider it due to the rules of my apartment building.
According to the article, there are devices that could be attached to existing toilet seats that cost 100$ or less. If they do work well (article claims that they have good reviews), then cost is not an issue.
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#14The US is a notoriously price-sensitive market. For a lot of folks, they wouldn't consider paying $1000+ for a toilet when the most basic American Standard can be found for about $125. A lot of people would find it hard to justify an order of magnitude price increase. I know Boston has a Toto showroom in its North End, but I really cant consider it due to the rules of my apartment building.
How long does a toilet last? Ten years?
Then we are talking less than the cost of your internet connection (and we won't mention the cost of food, which is way more than that).
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#15I might in the paranoid minority on this, but here are some concerns I have: * How does the toilet know that everything is clean? With toilet paper, you can just wipe with new toilet paper until there is no more residue. * What is the algorithm for the toilet's spraying? Does it end up spreading diluted feces around, or is it careful to spray outward-in? * What happens if feces end up on the nozzle? Is there some kin…
* What happens if urine splatter ends up in the nozzle? How easy is it to clean urine splatter off the controls?
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#16Hotel Kabuki in Japantown has them of course...
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#17Another place in San Francisco that has Japanese toilets? Our company, GREE International. And we're hiring :) http://gree-corp.com/jobs
Now to get a visa.
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#18Americans, by and large, are quite bizarre when it comes to discussing anything that takes place below the belt.
When I mentioned working at Google, I have had multiple people say to me, "I heard the founders at Google are OBSESSED with toilets and import special models from Japan." As if one has to be stark raving mad to use a modern toilet from Japan, instead of the old fashioned toilet which was probably imported from China anyway.
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#19Every one of these articles gets the pitch of these toilets completely wrong - for every person, and in every scenario, these are not universally better. Consider the following experiment: Smear some mud on your arm. Now, using a jet stream the power of a squirt gun and very low precision, wash it all off in 10 seconds. Not so easy. Then - imagine if you put mud on a place with hair! Not only will it not be clean wit…
You're thinking either/or instead of "finishing the job". When you dive into a mud pit, do you wipe yourself off with paper towels until you're done, or do you use a bit of soap & water?
I think you completely missed his point.
Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?
#20Do these improve upon the ergonomics of the common toilet? I'm thinking of the comparison between sitting and squatting positions.
Heated seats.
Finding a plumber I trust seems like a problem some startup has solved. There's never enough time to follow this up, I've been intending to upgrade for over a year.