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John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Aachen »

n8cpdx wrote: post #449
pzo wrote: post #338

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

I think the satellite connectivity is a pretty big deal and iPhone led with that. Also camera control literally changed how I use the phone.

For anyone else wondering what this means:

> lets you quickly open your iPhone camera and access common camera settings *points at button* (https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-the-camera-contro...)

The way you phrased it about changing how you use a phone, I was expecting you control a lot of the phone via the camera somehow (gestures?) and don't need to bother with the pesky touchscreen. But okay no it's just the camera button that has been on cameras and other phones since time immemorial

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Aachen »

didibus wrote: post #667

I'm not sure why so many people seem to think Apple software is terrible, I recon it's quite good personally, what's the issue with it?

Do you have any specific questions? The request for "what's wrong with Apple software" is about the size of a Wikipedia page to answer and what people are saying in the comments seems quite clear to me. Since you're referring to comments, but none in particular, I'm not sure what parts you want an elaboration on. It might also help to just ask in a thread that has information you find unclear

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Aachen »

elzbardico wrote: post #131
ahmedfromtunis wrote: post #88

When Cook took over, people expected him to fail. I don't think even Steve Jobs would've been able to imagine that Apple can get this big.

To be honest, a lot of industry analysts were skeptical of Jobs' second coming. And when he did a deal with Microsoft, most of them thought they were right in their initial pessimism. Over the time I developed the instinct to not take pundit's opinions too seriously.

Pundits... or might it just be that people can't predict markets and behavior without large error margins and compounding effects that magnify these errors further over time?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by necovek »

the_lucifer wrote: post #150
necovek wrote: post #29

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I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not.

> I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! > But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not. And I would disagree with the idea that I should be running Linux on my primary machine. As a developer, I've faced…

With Linux, it is really multiple UX ecosystems: you can be in one (eg. Gtk+/Gnome and/or Qt/KDE) and consistency will be there. Not perfect, but MacOS is not much better.

OTOH, I want subpixel rendering on my big screens, and you can't have it with a Mac.

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Post by gehsty »

pzo wrote: post #338

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

My washing machine still only washes clothes!

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by pprotas »

rootusrootus wrote: post #540
JetSpiegel wrote: post #513

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> no overt politics Excuse me? Giving a literal gold trophy to the God-Emperor Trump is not politics?

So you think he is a Trump supporter, then? I would have guessed precisely the opposite. My assumption is that the trophy was his way of looking out for the best interests of Apple. In that regard probably a fairly good ROI.

A bribe

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by briandear »

DeathArrow wrote: post #751
keepamovin wrote: post #649

This is one of the more broadly normal HN-reaction threads to large public news event I've seen in a while. A lot of love for Apple, respect for the decision, and respectfully stated nuance. Surprising and good. I still haven't scroll down to the bottom, I don't want to spoil my impression. But it's great to see a positive reaction. Good way to mark the moment. Tim has been CEO for 15 years roughly, since Steve's pas…

> A lot of love for Apple That makes me wonder why people love Apple but hate all other big companies.

Have you used Oracle, Salesforce, Windows? That’s why.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by rolisz »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #555
dvt wrote: post #426

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> I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. I vehemently disagree with this. I think Cook's logistics and business-focused goals are, if not diametrically opposed to Job's product obsession, at the very least orthogonal to it. Almost everything about Apple the product, over the past 15 years, has either coasted (e.g. stayed at par with the rest of the industry) or gotten worse. The one…

I find this critique extremely odd. Sure, Apple isn't perfect, but literally every thing they do is top tier in the category they enter. I started writing out a list of Apple's products and it was simply [x device] in [y category] is either the best or consistently rated in the top of that category.

MacOS sucks. I can't wait for the day Asahi Linux is good enough so that I can bail on it.

Safari, a web browser, randomly stops being able to connect to the Internet (other apps can).

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by wallst07 »

dewey wrote: post #536
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

I’m sure it’s amazing in California or the US. So often I think how much better products would be if the people responsible would have to use them for a week outside of the happy path. Example: Taking the airport train instead of a private driver and realizing there’s no luggage racks, staying in a regular hotel room and realizing there’s no light in front of the mirror, only behind you. So many examples like that on…

Another example: When taking HOV and the map asks you if you want HOV enabled, there are no options I can force the navigation to take me to the nearest HOV lane.

If it happens to be there, it will say to use it, but I can't say "Route me to the nearest HOV entrance" because I prefer it even if it's 1 minute slower.

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