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Bullshit About Bullshit Machines [pdf]

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Re: Bullshit About Bullshit Machines [pdf]

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Something that is still not clear to me is, what is conscious even. It references the Chinese Room experiment:

> Suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in programming a computer to behave as if it understands Chinese. The machine accepts Chinese characters as input, carries out each instruction of the program step by step, and then produces Chinese characters as output. The machine does this so perfectly that no one can tell that they are communicating with a machine and not a hidden Chinese speaker.

But what makes a human mind more "understanding"? Who says we're not simulating? Who says our mind even exists, in this space?

We're also a neural network, are we any more clever than a simulated one?

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ramon156 wrote: post #3

Something that is still not clear to me is, what is conscious even. It references the Chinese Room experiment: > Suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in programming a computer to behave as if it understands Chinese. The machine accepts Chinese characters as input, carries out each instruction of the program step by step, and then produces Chinese characters as output. The machine does this so p…

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Post by grebc »

ramon156 wrote: post #3

Something that is still not clear to me is, what is conscious even. It references the Chinese Room experiment: > Suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in programming a computer to behave as if it understands Chinese. The machine accepts Chinese characters as input, carries out each instruction of the program step by step, and then produces Chinese characters as output. The machine does this so p…

>But what makes a human mind more "understanding"? Who says we're not simulating? Who says our mind even exists, in this space?

The people running the experiment.

And yes is the answer to what should be a rhetorical question.

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ramon156 wrote: post #3

Something that is still not clear to me is, what is conscious even. It references the Chinese Room experiment: > Suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in programming a computer to behave as if it understands Chinese. The machine accepts Chinese characters as input, carries out each instruction of the program step by step, and then produces Chinese characters as output. The machine does this so p…

I say.
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