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Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by LtWorf »

bandrami wrote: post #38
operatingthetan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a strange way for this to be announced. Why is openclaw telling us this? I wouldn't even trust it until Anthropic says so themselves.

It's the PayPal model of customer service: they'll ban you at any time for any reason or none at all, but if you're very nice they might be willing to have a human look at that decision at some point, but probably not.

Oh yeah that happened to my paypal the one time I had a user donate to me!

At least the only action I was still able to perform was to refund the user, or paypal would have just kept the money.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by eknkc »

I’ve been using codex cli and GPT 5.4. It is better at coding than Opus anyway. I did not really test Opus 4.7 but older versions generated worse results compared to GPT.

Which I would not even try and test though if Anthropic did not ban my account. The shadiest thing I did was to use it with opencode for a while I think. Never installed claw or used CC tokens somewhere else.

This is a weird company doing weird shit.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by walthamstow »

redrove wrote: post #10
dmazin wrote: post #7

I got sick of the inconsistency caused by Anthropic tinkering with Claude Code and had canceled my 20x. My plan was to switch to Codex so I could use it in Pi. I am specifically talking about switching because of the harness, not model quality. Anyone else match my experience? I wonder how many other people recently did the same. It would be prudent of Anthropic to let people use Pro/Max OAuth tokens with other harne…

I’ve been using Codex Pro since they lobotomized Opus 4.6. Codex is so much better, GPT 5.4 xhigh fast is definitely the smartest and fastest model available. For a while there I had both Opus 4.6 and Codex access and I frequently pitted them against each other, I never once saw Opus come out ahead. Opus was good as a reviewer though, but as an implementer it just felt lazy compared to 5.4 xhigh. One feature that I h…

I also made the switch to OpenAI, the $20 plan, I dunno about "so much better" but it's more or less the same, which is great!

The models and tools levelling out is great for users because the cost of switching is basically nil. I'm reading people ITT saying they signed up for a year - big mistake. A year is a decade right now.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by notarobot123 »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #43

Anthropic is really trying to burn all that goodwill they worked up by raising prices, reducing limits and making it impossible to know what the actual policies are.

Boiling the frog is an art form. You've got to know when to turn up the heat and when to let it simmer.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by ralusek »

EFLKumo wrote: post #48

Whether to allow Claude subscription to access other services or not, at this point, anthropic seems to be schizophrenic, sometimes worried about insufficient computing power and sometimes worried about user loss, which is puzzling.

What's puzzling or schizophrenic about that? Those seem like two very natural factors that would be in tension with one another and have to be balanced.
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