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Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by hboon »

tommica wrote: post #9
dmazin wrote: post #7

I got sick of the inconsistency caused by Anthropic tinkering with Claude Code and had canceled my 20x. My plan was to switch to Codex so I could use it in Pi. I am specifically talking about switching because of the harness, not model quality. Anyone else match my experience? I wonder how many other people recently did the same. It would be prudent of Anthropic to let people use Pro/Max OAuth tokens with other harne…

I left anthropic a while ago because of the similar shenanigans they had earlier. I went with opencode & zen. I still have their subscription, but am using pi now, mainly because something happened that made my opencode sessions unusable (cannot continue them, just blanks out, I assume something in the sqlite is fucked), and I cannot be bothered to debug it. For what I use the agents, the Chinese models are enough

Doesn't using pi be against their terms of use about having to go through Claude Code cli for all Max plan usage? (I had use Droid with Max previously, it was a great combo).

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by Scotchy »

redrove wrote: post #10
dmazin wrote: post #7

I got sick of the inconsistency caused by Anthropic tinkering with Claude Code and had canceled my 20x. My plan was to switch to Codex so I could use it in Pi. I am specifically talking about switching because of the harness, not model quality. Anyone else match my experience? I wonder how many other people recently did the same. It would be prudent of Anthropic to let people use Pro/Max OAuth tokens with other harne…

I’ve been using Codex Pro since they lobotomized Opus 4.6. Codex is so much better, GPT 5.4 xhigh fast is definitely the smartest and fastest model available. For a while there I had both Opus 4.6 and Codex access and I frequently pitted them against each other, I never once saw Opus come out ahead. Opus was good as a reviewer though, but as an implementer it just felt lazy compared to 5.4 xhigh. One feature that I h…

Any alternative to Claude Design ? Tried Figma with Opus 4.6 but it doesn't come close in my experience.

Codex is abysmal for UI design imo.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by benjx88 »

throwup238 wrote: post #3

I don’t think I’ve seen a more confused and shambolic product strategy since Google’s absurd line of GChat rebrandings. Last year I was excited about the constant forward progress on models but since February or so its just been a mess and I want off this ride. Either way I’m going to wait for “official” word from Anthropic, which I guess at this point will probably be a “Tell HN” or Reddit text post or a Xitter from…

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Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by arjie »

Oh that's interesting. Right after they signed the deal with Amazon so maybe it was all compute constrained. In any case, I tried using the Codex $20/mo plan and the limits are so low I can hardly get anywhere before my agent swaps to a different agent.

Somewhat suspicious that if I do this without an official Anthropic notice I'll lose my precious Max $200/mo account so I'll sit tight perhaps for a while.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by resonious »

dmazin wrote: post #7

I got sick of the inconsistency caused by Anthropic tinkering with Claude Code and had canceled my 20x. My plan was to switch to Codex so I could use it in Pi. I am specifically talking about switching because of the harness, not model quality. Anyone else match my experience? I wonder how many other people recently did the same. It would be prudent of Anthropic to let people use Pro/Max OAuth tokens with other harne…

I also cancelled my 20x and switched to Codex. At this point even the Codex CLI seems to perform better than Claude Code... And so far I'm on the OpenAI Pro plan and haven't even needed to upgrade to their $100/mo plan. I'm getting more value for almost 10x cheaper.

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by 1una »

Looks like this was restored 2 weeks ago[0], 3 days after Anthropic said OpenClaw requires extra usage[1]. At this point, it's hard to take this seriously. No official statement and not even a tweet?

[0]: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/commit/d378a504ac17eab2...

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47633396

Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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Post by dgb23 »

Scotchy wrote: post #12
redrove wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been using Codex Pro since they lobotomized Opus 4.6. Codex is so much better, GPT 5.4 xhigh fast is definitely the smartest and fastest model available. For a while there I had both Opus 4.6 and Codex access and I frequently pitted them against each other, I never once saw Opus come out ahead. Opus was good as a reviewer though, but as an implementer it just felt lazy compared to 5.4 xhigh. One feature that I h…

Any alternative to Claude Design ? Tried Figma with Opus 4.6 but it doesn't come close in my experience. Codex is abysmal for UI design imo.

It really depends on what you‘re trying to do and what your skillset is.

But if you go information architecture first and have that codified in some way (espescially if you already have the templates), then you can nudge any agent to go straight into CSS and it will produce something reasonable.

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