It’s not novel to critique or idolize anyone, especially given the roll undergoing the changing of the guard. It’s not like hundreds of managers are changing. They are all still there. But here’s to hoping that change comes. Apple is already a rich company. But isn’t that boring?
> Apple is already a rich company. But isn’t that boring “Making money is art, and working is art and good business is the best art” — Andy Warhol
John Ternus to become Apple CEO
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#612John Ternus really did turn the Mac around. The last 5 or so years of the Intel era were a disaster. Hopefully he will be able to turn things around with software too.
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#613I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…
Don't forget about the Apple Car. 100% of that failed, and Tim spent a decade on it. Quite a bit of attention on here, but it seems we've quickly forgotten all about it since it was never seen. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=apple+car
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#614Is this a reward for a job well-done? Because apple hardware for the last 5-years has been amazing. The software though has sucked - will it be more years of amazing hardware and shit software? In other words focusing on developers, especially of llm software? I'm fine with that. Maybe we'll get rack-mountable apple ai servers (joking - apple servers were great and lasted a decade+ but went nowhere) Yeah, what's goin…
I would have expected a marketer.
Or as some may call it, a ShillerRe: John Ternus to become Apple CEO
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#616Earlier quoted context omitted.
Saying Apple Software is 'terrible' is a blatant hyperbole. Has it degraded meaningfully over the last decade in terms of stability? Yes. Has it's capability increased though? Yes. Has it become more secure by design? Yes. Is the UX better than anything else in market? By a country mile.
The UX used to be better by a country mile. The liquid glass update was a genuinely serious regression. Is Windows or Android now better? At least those operating systems don't have constant contrast issues and flickering. At this point they probably have more consistency. MacOS reliability has slowly gotten worse and worse, but the UX drop with liquid glass was profound.
I hope the new leadership will bring back better software. As of now, macOS 26 is disgusting.
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#617If Apple really wants to keep their long term users in its ecosystem, it should really drop stupid Liquid glass design, stop making macOS look like its mobile OSs, and bring skeuomorphism back, which was removed by John Ive.
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#618What are these titles? Why? Who does what? It feels like a linkedin tea party.
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#619Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.
Apple’s software has a kind of reliable predictability that many appreciate. But “best” is far too strong a word. For starters, most if not all their software can be described as simpler also-rans. And in line with that approach, for a company that innovates in hardware, it does not apply that effort to software. With two exceptions in the last two decades. The iPhone and Apple Watch operating systems & interfaces we…
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#620Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…