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Re: Brave Origin

#22
post #19

So by having you pay to disable Tor, the llm, and all their extra features are they basically admitting that none of their users actually want those things and that bundling those things is how they generate revenue?

I see that you're trying to frame it as a "gotcha", but they've always said that those features were to generate revenue. And this news isn't any different, literally the first line: Brave Origin is a minimalist version of Brave that allows users to disable the revenue-generating features that otherwise support Brave as a business.

I've been using brave all these years and I just thought they were extra features, other than the crypto one, didn't think there was any money incentive in them wasting compute on AI.

Re: Brave Origin

#23
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've watered down their privacy promises quite a bit: > Mozilla may also receive location-related keywords from your search (such as when you search for “Boston”) and share this with our partners to provide recommended and sponsored content. Where this occurs, Mozilla cannot associate the keyword search with an individual user once the search suggestion has been served and partners are never able to associate sear…

you're really complaining that they're using location based keywords? Using a location based keyword to serve a relevant sponsored post isnt personal data. I swear mozilla haters just want it to die so they can use chrome guilt free.

Firefox security bad, Chrome good and safe.

Re: Brave Origin

#24
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see that you're trying to frame it as a "gotcha", but they've always said that those features were to generate revenue. And this news isn't any different, literally the first line: Brave Origin is a minimalist version of Brave that allows users to disable the revenue-generating features that otherwise support Brave as a business.

I've been using brave all these years and I just thought they were extra features, other than the crypto one, didn't think there was any money incentive in them wasting compute on AI.

I've never understood how their Brave Credits were supposed to work, but I liked the idea that someone wanted to try out a different model to ads how we know them for about a century.

Ads made magazines, newspaper, news, radio, tv and now internet terrible to be with and I'm honestly curious what can be done to improve the situation.

Re: Brave Origin

#25
post #5

I have found literally 0 incentive to switch from firefox to anything else.

I unfortunately have. Enough things don't work on Firefox (especially anything Microsoft related, weird account related issues) that I end up having to use Chrome for quite a few things, and eventually the friction of remembering what I'm logged into in each browser drives me slowly towards the one where everything works... Which is Chrome. Well, Chromium. But maybe I'll try this new Brave Origin since it's free on Linux.

Re: Brave Origin

#26
The cost is $60.

https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=origin

I'm just repeating this from another comment deeper-in. @microflash https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47833071#47843941

Brave's features don't bother me nearly as much as some people. It's privacy-oriented, I don't mind. Crypto isn't just an obtuse deal-breaker. Though it all begs the question how exactly monetization occurs.

According to Grok:

1. Opt-in ads that Brave serves and is paid for. "Ads are matched on-device using local browsing data—no profiling or data leaves your device, unlike Big Tech ads."

2. Subscriptions to premium features.

3. Revenue on Brave wallet fees.

Re: Brave Origin

#28
post #7
post #5

I have found literally 0 incentive to switch from firefox to anything else.

They've watered down their privacy promises quite a bit: > Mozilla may also receive location-related keywords from your search (such as when you search for “Boston”) and share this with our partners to provide recommended and sponsored content. Where this occurs, Mozilla cannot associate the keyword search with an individual user once the search suggestion has been served and partners are never able to associate sear…

Sharing search keywords with 3rd parties is "watering down privacy"? When are we going to stop pretending Firefox search had _any_ privacy to begin with when by default it literally send _all_ word written in the search bar to google in exchange for money.

Re: Brave Origin

#29
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've watered down their privacy promises quite a bit: > Mozilla may also receive location-related keywords from your search (such as when you search for “Boston”) and share this with our partners to provide recommended and sponsored content. Where this occurs, Mozilla cannot associate the keyword search with an individual user once the search suggestion has been served and partners are never able to associate sear…

you're really complaining that they're using location based keywords? Using a location based keyword to serve a relevant sponsored post isnt personal data. I swear mozilla haters just want it to die so they can use chrome guilt free.

Location data is personal data, same as seach data in general but that battle has long been lost with Firefox which sells all user searches to google anyways.

Re: Brave Origin

#30
post #2

I hope this works out well and Mozilla takes notice. I've never understood why Mozilla doesn't at least take donations for Firefox.

There are very good reasons why you 501(c)(3) doesn't allow setting up a non-profit that accept "donations" that benefit one of the non-profit's wholly owned for-profit subsidiaries.

I understand that is the current situation, but they don't need the for-profit to be the one working on Firefox.
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