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Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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So what? I still prefer that over US total dominance. Let them fight it out.

I'd get a bit informed about what exactly Chinese dominance entails. Ask a few Uyghurs, Cantonese Hong Kongers, or even Tibetans. Then decide ...

What a delusional dumb ass you are

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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> We've seen all the American models be closed and proprietary from the start. Most*. OpenAI, contrary to popular belief, actually used to believe in open research and (more or less) open models. GPT1 and GPT2 both were model+code releases (although GPT2 was a "staged" release), GPT3 ended up API-only.

That's fair but those days seem so long gone now. Also the Chinese models aren't following a typical American SaaS playbook which relies on free/cheap proprietary software for early growth. They are not just publishing their weights but also their code and often even publishing papers in Open Access journals to explicitly highlight what methods and advancements were made to accomplish their results

> those days seem so long gone now.

Well, Musk v OpenAI kicks off in one week from now with the objective of forcing them back to their roots. A jury will be deciding whether a nonprofit accepting $50m - $100m of donations and then discarding their mission for an IPO is OK or not. Should be interesting.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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> The value in Claude Code is its harness If this was the case then Anthropic would be in a very bad spot. It's not, which is why people got so mad about being forced to use it rather than better third party harnesses. Pi is better than CC as a harness in almost every respect.

Anthropic limiting Claude subs to Claude code is what pushed me away in the end because I wanted to keep using Pi.

Just sign up for an AWS account and use the Anthropic models through Bedrock which Pi can use.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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It seems like people can't even agree which SOTA model is best at any given moment anymore, so yeah I think it's just subjective at this point.

Perhaps not even necessarily subjective, just performance is highly task-dependent and even variable within tasks. People get objectively different experiences, and assume one or another is better, but it's basically random.

Unless you're looking at something like a pass@100 benchmark, the benchmarks are confounded heavily by a likelihood of a "golden path" retrieval within their capabilities. This is on top of uncertainties like how well your task within a domain maps to the relevant test sets, as well as factors like context fullness and context complexity (heavy list of relevant complex instructions can weigh on capabilities in different ways than e.g. having a history where there's prior unrelated tasks still in context).

The best tests are your own custom personal-task-relevant standardized tests (which the best models can't saturate, so aiming for less than 70% pass rate in the best case).

All this is to say that most people are not doing the latter and their vibes are heavily confounded to the point of being mostly meaningless.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Anthropic limiting Claude subs to Claude code is what pushed me away in the end because I wanted to keep using Pi.

Just sign up for an AWS account and use the Anthropic models through Bedrock which Pi can use.

Why use tricks to support a company that is hostile to your use case?

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Ah and there is the dogma -- the otherness of the enlightened. The binaries still functionally exist. I see a lot of value in reflective practices. At the same time it seems unlikely to me that the point of existing is to not trouble your mind.

There's a saying in Zen: if you meet the buddha on the road, kill him. The point being, the very exaltation of enlightenment is an impediment. If Buddhism can be said to have a goal, it is to reduce suffering (including your own), so troubling your own mind is indeed something it can help with. The point of existence would be something interesting to meditate on. If you discover it, let us all know!

This dancing between positions is all very defensible and if the path is currently working for you, more power to you.

Dogma, like the binaries, still functionally exists, whatever the narrative. If you can’t admit that, that might also be something interesting to meditate on.

Say you have eliminated all suffering. How many versions of that world exist? How many of them are true, beautiful, and good? See how, in order to evaluate the success or failure of Buddhism, we have to move beyond “eliminate suffering” to a higher value standard?

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Anthropic limiting Claude subs to Claude code is what pushed me away in the end because I wanted to keep using Pi.

Just sign up for an AWS account and use the Anthropic models through Bedrock which Pi can use.

API costs are really high compared to subs.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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The value in Claude Code is its harness. I've tried the desktop app and found it was absolutely terrible in comparison. Like, the very nature of it being a separate codebase is already enough to completely throw off its performance compared to the CLI. Nuts.

> The value in Claude Code is its harness If this was the case then Anthropic would be in a very bad spot. It's not, which is why people got so mad about being forced to use it rather than better third party harnesses. Pi is better than CC as a harness in almost every respect.

Can you enumerate why?

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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I've been using Claude Code regularly at work for several months, and I successfully used it for a small personal project (a website) not long ago. Last weekend, I explored self-hosting for the first time. Does anyone have a similar experience of having thoroughly used CC/Codex/whatever and also have an analogous self-hosted setup that they're somewhat happy with? I'm struggling a bit. I have 32GB of DDR5 (seems inad…

I run a setup similar to yours and I've had the best results with Qwen3.5 27B. Specifically the Q4_K_M variant. https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/qwen3.5

I use llama-server that comes with llama.cpp instead of using ollama. Here are the exact settings I use.

llama-server -ngl 99 -c 192072 -fa on --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 --host 0.0.0.0 --sleep-idle-seconds 300 -m Qwen3.5-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf

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