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Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

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Post by andybak »

mindslight wrote: post #19
dsr_ wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unofficial ports will happen. CM can only fully support devices where there is at least one developer who owns the device and is willing to do the work. All their work is in the open. Just the same as any other open source project: if you want it, you need to do some work or pay someone to do it for you.

Eh? The device was supported at one time. Ubuntu doesn't say "too bad, we no longer own any six year old Thinkpad T60's" when they release a new version. They simply leave the drivers for such devices, make changes that aren't expected to break specific hardware models, and get some stablish prereleases so they can take the occasional bug report for the leaky abstractions that did break. Contrast to Google who AFAIK…

Ubuntu is a commercial venture. It pays people salaries. You do the same to someone working on a CM ROM for your phone and I'm sure your request will be granted.

Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

#22

Post by rbanffy »

bullwinkle12 wrote: post #13
mindslight wrote: post #6

It really irks me that there are no builds for older devices. What is the point of installing CM and putting up with reduced and clunky functionality, just to be left by the wayside for updates? I don't know if this is due to CM or Google itself running amok on the upstream tree, but a philosophy that considers a two year old device obsolete is utterly preposterous.

I agree. For a long time Samsung Captivate users like me were stuck with CM7. By some miracle the Captivate is supported by CM10, so I'm very excited to try it. There are other ROMs out there though. Part of the fun of flashing new ROMs is to try out the lesser known ones. There are still a lot of developers who support the older models. To your philosophical point, I completely agree. New phones are pushed so freque…

> By some miracle the Captivate is supported by CM10

It's no miracle. A generous, competent and unpaid volunteer decided to build the support for the Captivate. If your device is not supported, you are free to download the source and fix whatever breaks yourself or pay for someone else to do it.

Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

#23

Post by omnisci »

mindslight wrote: post #19
dsr_ wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unofficial ports will happen. CM can only fully support devices where there is at least one developer who owns the device and is willing to do the work. All their work is in the open. Just the same as any other open source project: if you want it, you need to do some work or pay someone to do it for you.

Eh? The device was supported at one time. Ubuntu doesn't say "too bad, we no longer own any six year old Thinkpad T60's" when they release a new version. They simply leave the drivers for such devices, make changes that aren't expected to break specific hardware models, and get some stablish prereleases so they can take the occasional bug report for the leaky abstractions that did break. Contrast to Google who AFAIK…

Last I checked, CM was free, done by the work of volunteers. Sooooooo, yeah. Either help (if you have the knowledge) or don't complain about it. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but come on, it's free! Don't look a gift ROM in the mouth.

Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

#24

Post by mindslight »

andybak wrote: post #21
mindslight wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? The device was supported at one time. Ubuntu doesn't say "too bad, we no longer own any six year old Thinkpad T60's" when they release a new version. They simply leave the drivers for such devices, make changes that aren't expected to break specific hardware models, and get some stablish prereleases so they can take the occasional bug report for the leaky abstractions that did break. Contrast to Google who AFAIK…

Ubuntu is a commercial venture. It pays people salaries. You do the same to someone working on a CM ROM for your phone and I'm sure your request will be granted.

I only picked Ubuntu for a timely example. This philosophy has applied to the Linux kernel and Linux distributions for at least the past 15 years.

Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

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Post by bullwinkle12 »

omnisci wrote: post #20
bullwinkle12 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a dumb question. Samsung hired, Steve Kondik, CM's lead developer in 2011. I'm not sure I've seen how this has affected Samsung, but I haven't really paid to much attention to their newer phones. Still, we won't ever see a CM phone by Samsung. Although I agree, that it would be preferred to any TouchWiz phone. http://www.theverge.com/2011/08/15/samsung-hires-cyanogenmod...

Just a FYI, I had a SG3 for 3 weeks and I recently got the note 2 and I have no complaints. A lot of the tweaks they implemented are pretty f'in awesome and I find myself saying "that makes sense" quite often, so maybe hiring this guy helped. Thanks for the answers and I'm happy to see that samsung did that. I know for a fact, that if I was a company and someone was making MY product better....for free, that I'd be o…

Great point. That's exactly the kind of employee all companies should aim to hire - someone who is genuinely excited and passionate.

Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

#26

Post by radley »

robin_reala wrote: post #18
dagw wrote: post #11

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The Nexus S won't be getting Android 4.2 without going the Cyanogen route. So even with Nexus phones you still have to chose between buying a new phone every 2 years, not having the latest version of Android or installing Cyanogenmod.

Got a reference for that? I was assuming 4.2 would be coming to the Nexus S.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!topic/android-buildi...

Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

#27

Post by [deleted] »

omnisci wrote: post #23
mindslight wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? The device was supported at one time. Ubuntu doesn't say "too bad, we no longer own any six year old Thinkpad T60's" when they release a new version. They simply leave the drivers for such devices, make changes that aren't expected to break specific hardware models, and get some stablish prereleases so they can take the occasional bug report for the leaky abstractions that did break. Contrast to Google who AFAIK…

Last I checked, CM was free, done by the work of volunteers. Sooooooo, yeah. Either help (if you have the knowledge) or don't complain about it. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but come on, it's free! Don't look a gift ROM in the mouth.

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Re: CyanogenMod 10.0 Release

#29

Post by [deleted] »

bullwinkle12 wrote: post #16
omnisci wrote: post #12

I'm assuming people here know a bit more about this than I do, so I'll ask. Why is CM still a 3rd party developer? I'm curious as to why Google/Samsung/Motorola etc hasn't bought them out and applied their talent to make the stock setup better? Honestly, I'd much rather buy a "XYZ phone, CyanogenMod version" over to the stock Touchwiz/SenseUI etc front end. Excuse my ignorance if this is a dumb question.

Not a dumb question. Samsung hired, Steve Kondik, CM's lead developer in 2011. I'm not sure I've seen how this has affected Samsung, but I haven't really paid to much attention to their newer phones. Still, we won't ever see a CM phone by Samsung. Although I agree, that it would be preferred to any TouchWiz phone. http://www.theverge.com/2011/08/15/samsung-hires-cyanogenmod...

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