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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by tensor »

pharos92 wrote: post #134
Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Saying Apple Software is 'terrible' is a blatant hyperbole. Has it degraded meaningfully over the last decade in terms of stability? Yes. Has it's capability increased though? Yes. Has it become more secure by design? Yes. Is the UX better than anything else in market? By a country mile.

The UX used to be better by a country mile. The liquid glass update was a genuinely serious regression. Is Windows or Android now better? At least those operating systems don't have constant contrast issues and flickering. At this point they probably have more consistency.

MacOS reliability has slowly gotten worse and worse, but the UX drop with liquid glass was profound.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

toephu2 wrote: post #114
hei-lima wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Google is much better at software than Apple...most in the Valley would agree with this.

Only if you put aside the fact that Google makes its money from selling your attention.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by jonhohle »

fckgw wrote: post #92
btown wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

Apple Maps is pretty fantastic

On macOS there are so many basic things you’d want to do - share itineraries, annotate places, keep lists of things, but there’s not even a document concept. With the exception of guides, anything you do is ephemeral. It’s excellent at planning a route, but doing anything with that route, including getting back to it later is useless.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by lotsofpulp »

fckgw wrote: post #92
btown wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

Apple Maps is pretty fantastic

And they just added ads.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by appplication »

nottorp wrote: post #118
Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

> Apple software is terrible I killed a Finder process that was at 1.2 G ram consumed today...

I wish I could get my Chrome memory footprint so low

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by lostlogin »

legitster wrote: post #78
Fr0styMatt88 wrote: post #38

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Curious as an outsider what you mean with US politics? Seems like Apple has a pretty strong stance when it comes to things like privacy that pushes back on some things (that could be smoke and mirrors though I guess).

The privacy is more of a market position thing than it is a political thing. Apple has led the industry on hardware but is woefully behind on the software and services front. Focusing on device-level privacy controls turns what would be a gap into a moat, and it helps deprive Google and other services from monetizing their customer base. Not to say that it's not something the company is passionate about - but it's al…

> and it helps deprive Google and other services from monetizing their customer base.

The payment Apple gets from Google for being the default search might help explain this. It would be hard to turn down the sums Apple gets.

https://9to5mac.com/2025/09/03/just-one-word-in-the-google-a...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by bayindirh »

hei-lima wrote: post #77
Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Their software is better than most (if not all) of closed-source universe. That's true, but the problem is, they were better in the past.

I'm using both Linux and macOS close to 20 years (Linux is even more than 20, IIRC), and macOS (aka Mac OS) used to be snappier, more stable, more uniform and had incredibly low number of papercuts around the UI. Now it has some nasty thorns here and there, while Linux is improving steadily and not regressing much as macOS.

Apple needs to overhaul their software stack. They can use a lot of sanding and polishing to bring the shine back. They need another "Snow Leopard" release, as many people say.

On the other hand, even with all these bells and whistles, they can't even get close to the composability of Linux systems. Doing so will also damage their bottom line, so they won't, and that's OK.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by vel0city »

thereitgoes456 wrote: post #70
Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

I admire how Tim Cook participates in US politics. He is doing the most while giving the least. I would do the same in his position, he is making the best of a difficult situation, and it is his duty to protect his company and employees. Giving a golden statue of Trump has no effect on you and me, and a very large effect on Trump. He is gaining significant political capital while giving up nothing that matters (feel…

> Giving a golden statue of Trump has no effect on you and me, and a very large effect on Trump.

Bribery hurts everyone else following the law. It erodes public trust. All of us are definitely hurt by Trump's extreme and obvious levels of corruption.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by pupppet »

Anyone know why?

Tim gifted Donald a trophy 8 months ago doing his legacy no favors. You wouldn't do this if you knew you were on your way out. Makes me wonder if something happened between August 2025 and now.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by thenanyu »

danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

Siri was under jobs. He saw AI before everyone else
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