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AI Resistance: some recent anti-AI stuff that’s worth discussing

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Re: AI Resistance: some recent anti-AI stuff that’s worth discussing

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Post by madamelic »

I do understand people's dislike / hatred for AI but I am equally baffled.

I feel like the same people that shout "Capitalism sucks, free us from our labor" are the exact same types that hate AI. The exact machine that will free you from your labor, when harnessed correctly, is the exact thing you hate.

The "cyber psychosis" thing is overblown just like the "Tesla ignites its passengers" is. The only reason it gets in the news is because it is trendy to do so. The people getting 'infected' would've infected themselves regardless.

Genuinely I think the hatred is overblown by people who have no clue what the actual truth of AI is, something they seem obsessed with.

The only genuine complaint about AI is the data sourcing which is a problem being resolved by CloudFlare along with other platforms that require high payment for the privilege. With that said though, those platforms are still selling user data with users producing the content gaining nothing, that part needs to be fixed.

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Post by happygoose »

guywithahat wrote: post #5

I'm very skeptical of his premise. I feel like AI acceptance/resistance is dependent on what social media site you use. I believe it's antagonistic on Reddit, but sites like X are generally pretty excited for AI. Certainly in my life people are accepting and excited for AI releases and tools, maybe so long as your experience with AI isn't Microsoft enterprise copilot.

What's co-pilot? do you mean the Microsoft 365 Copilot App?

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Post by yodsanklai »

guywithahat wrote: post #5

I'm very skeptical of his premise. I feel like AI acceptance/resistance is dependent on what social media site you use. I believe it's antagonistic on Reddit, but sites like X are generally pretty excited for AI. Certainly in my life people are accepting and excited for AI releases and tools, maybe so long as your experience with AI isn't Microsoft enterprise copilot.

I wonder if people who weren't very good at school feel vindicated by AI, while the most successful ones are threatened.

Re: AI Resistance: some recent anti-AI stuff that’s worth discussing

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Post by larodi »

This whole poisoning intent is so incredibly misappropriated, that I feel sad about it. First of all - there is enough content to train on already, that is not poisoned, and second - the other new content is largely populated in automated manner from the real world, and by workers in large shops in Africa, that are being paid to not produce shit.

So yes, you can pollute the good old internet even more, but no, you cannot change the arrow of time, and then there's already the growing New Internet of APIs and public announce federations where this all matters very little.

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Post by cute_boi »

fuddle wrote: post #4

> The poison fountain itself is hosted on rnsaffn.com Would the scrapers not just add these sites to do not crawl list?

And someone will come up with service anti-anti-ai.dev which will charge money to labs to filter out these sites.

Re: AI Resistance: some recent anti-AI stuff that’s worth discussing

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Post by alyxya »

This seems like a wasted effort when AI will primarily learn the majority consensus view and not one-off misinformation. AI tries to learn pattern matching for generalization, so garbage data doesn't make AI learn the wrong patterns, at best just slows down learning the actual patterns. When most compute for training is spent on curated data and RL rather than random web-scraped data, the impact is likely negligible.
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