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Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Notice the pattern that Chinese providers are now: 1. Keeping models closed source. 2. Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase.

Are you talking about GLM 5.1, DeepSeek V3.2 or Kimi K2.6 (released one hour ago!)? Oh wait, it doesn't apply to those…

Yet.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…

The only reason I'm stuck with Claude and Chatgpt is because of their tool calling. They do have some pretty useful features like skills etc. I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents. How are you guys handling documents and excels with these tools? I'd love to switch tbh.

> I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents

What agent harness did you use? Usually, "write_file", "shell_exec" or similar is two of the first tools you add to an agent harness, after read_file/list_files. If it doesn't have those tools, unsure if you could even call it a agent harness in the first place.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason I'm stuck with Claude and Chatgpt is because of their tool calling. They do have some pretty useful features like skills etc. I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents. How are you guys handling documents and excels with these tools? I'd love to switch tbh.

> I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents What agent harness did you use? Usually, "write_file", "shell_exec" or similar is two of the first tools you add to an agent harness, after read_file/list_files. If it doesn't have those tools, unsure if you could even call it a agent harness in the first place.

Sorry for the confusion, I was actually talking about their Web based chat. Since most of my work is governance and docs, I just use their Web chats and they just refuse to output proper documents like Claude or Chatgpt do.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason I'm stuck with Claude and Chatgpt is because of their tool calling. They do have some pretty useful features like skills etc. I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents. How are you guys handling documents and excels with these tools? I'd love to switch tbh.

When was the last time you used Qwen models? Their 3.5 and 3.6 models are excellent with tool calling.

I gave it a try a few weeks ago tbh, I'll give it another shot tho. I mainly use their Web chats since that's easier to use and previously, qwen, deepseek, kimi, all were unable to output proper docx files or use skills.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#197
post #148
post #82

Notice the pattern that Chinese providers are now: 1. Keeping models closed source. 2. Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase.

Are you talking about GLM 5.1, DeepSeek V3.2 or Kimi K2.6 (released one hour ago!)? Oh wait, it doesn't apply to those…

Z.ai's Coding Plan with GLM 5.1 (Max) did more than double in price. It was $80 two weeks ago, and now it's $160.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents What agent harness did you use? Usually, "write_file", "shell_exec" or similar is two of the first tools you add to an agent harness, after read_file/list_files. If it doesn't have those tools, unsure if you could even call it a agent harness in the first place.

Sorry for the confusion, I was actually talking about their Web based chat. Since most of my work is governance and docs, I just use their Web chats and they just refuse to output proper documents like Claude or Chatgpt do.

Aha... Well, I let Codex (Claude Code would work too) manage/troubleshoot .xlsx files too, seems to handle it just fine (it tends to un-archive them and browse the resulting XML files without issues), seen it do similar stuff for .app and .docx files too so maybe give that a try with other harnesses/models too, they might get it :)

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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post #71

Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…

>but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus

Could you please share more about this

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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post #71

Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…

I wonder why glm is viewed so positively. Every time I try to build something with it, the output is worse than other models I use (Gemini, Claude), it takes longer to reach an answer and plenty of times it gets stuck in a loop.

You're probably just holding it wrong.
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