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Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by jdasdf »

gpm wrote: post #72
pbowyer wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the privacy/data security like? I can't find that on that page. Edit: found it. > We may use your Content to operate, maintain, improve, and develop the Services, to comply with legal obligations, to enforce our policies, and to ensure security. You may opt out of allowing your Content to be used for model improvement and research purposes by contacting us at membership@moonshot.ai. We will honor your choice i…

> We will honor your choice in accordance with applicable law. So in other words only if you can point to a local law which requires them to comply with the opt out?

most laws enforce agreements.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

I really wish some of these very-long-horizon runs were themselves open sourced (open released open access). Have the harness setup to do git committing automatically of the transcript and code, offload the git commit message making. Release it all.

This sounds so so so cool. It would be so amazing to see this unfurl:

> Kimi K2.6 successfully downloaded and deployed the Qwen3.5-0.8B model locally on a Mac. By implementing and optimizing model inference in Zig—a highly niche programming language—it demonstrated exceptional out-of-distribution generalization. Across 4,000+ tool calls, over 12 hours of continuous execution, and 14 iterations, Kimi K2.6 dramatically improved throughput from ~15 to ~193 tokens/sec, ultimately achieving speeds ~20% faster than LM Studio.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by gpm »

jdasdf wrote: post #131
gpm wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We will honor your choice in accordance with applicable law. So in other words only if you can point to a local law which requires them to comply with the opt out?

most laws enforce agreements.

Yes... but the agreement only says they won't train on your data if the law is already preventing them from doing so.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by nickthegreek »

hn8726 wrote: post #92
simonw wrote: post #53

Accessed via OpenRouter, this one decided to wrap the SVG pelican in HTML with controls for the animation speed: https://gisthost.github.io/?ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669e94... Transcript and HTML here: https://gist.github.com/simonw/ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669...

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This isn't even a normal pelican image post, this one created the html control system that animates the distance the wing travels from its pivot in time with the rotation of the wheel speed. Let's not pretend this is a solved problem and models are dumping about perfect pelicans on bikes one after another (or ever?).

Surely, you know someone makes the same post you did every time one is posted. Surly you see the answers and pushback since you are familiar with these posts. Genuine question, did you expect a different answer this time?

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by tadfisher »

pheggs wrote: post #126
tadfisher wrote: post #74

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Nah, open source means those who do the work own the result. It's supercapitalism.

I dont think thats right, the models and the gpus are the means of production. in capitalism the people with the capital get the profit, not the people who do the work. however, workers are said to benefit too through their salary, just less so

The reason regular-capitalism worked is that all production used to depend on workers bottlenecking the free flow of capital by demanding salaries in exchange for their labor. Now that we've removed that obstacle, capitalism demands workers seize the means of production in order to maintain the status quo. Hence, supercapitalism.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by gpm »

cedws wrote: post #129
game_the0ry wrote: post #27

There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.

I wonder if there's a strategy behind all of this on China's side. I know the CCP uses a direct hand in many affairs in China, but is there an actual coordinated effort to compete with, or sabotage the West?

> but is there an actual coordinated effort to compete with [...] the West

Yes, absolutely.

China regularly produces long term planning documents to coordinate efforts, and the latest ones have specifically prioritized technology like chips and AI to compete with the west. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-parliament-approve...

I don't believe there's any publicly stated intent to sabotage the west... unsurprisingly.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #98
culi wrote: post #52

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All great technological advancements have come through opening up technology. Just look at your iPhone. GPS, the internet, AI voice assistants, touchscreens, microprocessors, lithium-ion batteries, etc all came from gov't research (I'm counting Bell Labs' gov't mandated monopoly + research funding as gov't) that was opened up for free instead of being locked behind a patent. Private companies will never open up a tec…

Still, you won't hear about Tiananmen square from this model. It flat out refuses to answer if pushed directly. It's also pretty wild how far they go to censor it during inference on the API, because it can easily access any withheld or missing info from training data via tool calls. It even starts happily writing an answer based on web search when asked indirectly, only to get culled completely once some censorship…

The American models also censor a lot of scientific and political views though.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by deanc »

kburman wrote: post #106

Has anyone here used Kimi for actual work? I tried it once, although it looks amazing on benchmarks, my experience was just okay-ish. On the other hand, Qwen 3.6 is really good. It’s still not close to Opus, but it’s easily on par with Sonnet.

Yes. You’re using Kimi if you use the composer-2 model in cursor. It’s great. Plan in state of the art. Execute in composer-2

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by subscribed »

SwellJoe wrote: post #64
simonw wrote: post #53

Accessed via OpenRouter, this one decided to wrap the SVG pelican in HTML with controls for the animation speed: https://gisthost.github.io/?ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669e94... Transcript and HTML here: https://gist.github.com/simonw/ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669...

We got an overachiever, here. Kimi sounds like a teacher's pet kind of name.

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