Notice the pattern that Chinese providers are now: 1. Keeping models closed source. 2. Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase.
Well, they can't subsidize forever. And, it is kinda expected?
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All people think dogmatically. The only difference is what the ontological commitments and methaphysical foundations are. Take out God and people will fit politics, sports teams, tools, whatever in there. Its inescapable.
Allow me to introduce you to Buddhism
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Ask a few Native Americans about dominance. Or maybe families of African descent. Or maybe families of Japanese Americans who lived in the US during WWII. Or maybe people of Latin descent living in the US today.
The US examples you just gave happened decades (and in some cases hundreds) of years ago. The difference is that it's happening in China right now, and nobody cares. You really don't see the difference?
I'm perfectly happy to let the chinese get a piece of the pie and fight the US, no matter how bad they are right now.
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#164Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…
Every time I try to build something with it, the output is worse than other models I use (Gemini, Claude), it takes longer to reach an answer and plenty of times it gets stuck in a loop.
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For serious work, the difference between spending $10/month and $100/month is not even worth considering for most professional developers. There are exceptions like students and people in very low income countries, but I’m always confused by developers with in careers where six figure salaries are normal who are going cheap on tools. I find even the SOTA models to be far away from trustworthy for anything beyond thro…
You need to supervise the model anyway, because you want that code to be long-term maintainable and defect free, and AI is nowhere near strong enough to guarantee that anytime soon. Using the latest Opus for literally everything is just a huge waste of effort.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which one?
Zen
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#167Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…
I wonder why glm is viewed so positively. Every time I try to build something with it, the output is worse than other models I use (Gemini, Claude), it takes longer to reach an answer and plenty of times it gets stuck in a loop.
Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving
#168Notice the pattern that Chinese providers are now: 1. Keeping models closed source. 2. Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase.
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#169Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…
I wonder why glm is viewed so positively. Every time I try to build something with it, the output is worse than other models I use (Gemini, Claude), it takes longer to reach an answer and plenty of times it gets stuck in a loop.
You have to keep it below ~100 000 token, else it gets funny in the head.
I only use it for hobby projects though. Paid 3 EUR per month, that is not longer available though :( Not sure what I will choose end of month. Maybe OpenCode Go.
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#170Everybody's out here chasing SOTA, meanwhile I'm getting all my coding done with MiniMax M2.5 in multiple parallel sessions for $10/month and never running into limits.
Who are you paying $10/month? OpenRouter?