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Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by deaux »

greenavocado wrote: post #19

I pray the benchmark figures are true so I can stop paying Anthropic after screwing me over this quarter by dumbing down their models, making usage quotas ridiculously small, and demanding KYC paperwork.

> dumbing down their models,

This should be so easy to prove if it were true. Yet there is none of it, just vibes.

Still, your other two points are completely valid. The opaqueness of usage quotas is a scam, within a single month for a single model it can differ by more than 2x. And this indeed has been proven.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by dryarzeg »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #67
culi wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also one of the few models that seem capable of drawing an SVG clock https://clocks.brianmoore.com/

Is it? In your link it definitely failed to draw the clock.

I'm not really sure how this works, but I stayed on the page for a while, and then it reloaded and all clocks changed. I guess there's either a collection of different clocks generated by models, or maybe they're somehow generated in the real time, but the fact is what you see is not necessarily what I see.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#83

Post by candl »

Are there any coding plans for this? (aka no token limit, just api call limit). Recently my account failed to be billed for GLM on z.ai and my subscription expired because of this... the pricing for GLM went through the roof in recent months, though...

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by deaux »

pbowyer wrote: post #45
esafak wrote: post #8

K2.5 was already pretty decent so I would try this. Starting at $15/month: https://www.kimi.com/membership/pricing edit: Note that you can run it yourself with sufficient resources (e.g., companies), or access it from other providers too: https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2.6/providers

What's the privacy/data security like? I can't find that on that page. Edit: found it. > We may use your Content to operate, maintain, improve, and develop the Services, to comply with legal obligations, to enforce our policies, and to ensure security. You may opt out of allowing your Content to be used for model improvement and research purposes by contacting us at membership@moonshot.ai. We will honor your choice i…

Yup, they train on your inputs and OpenRouter is complicit by claiming that Moonshot's ToS says that they don't. Contacted OpenRouter about this a while ago and was met with silence because it's bad for their business to stop lying about it.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by zozbot234 »

wizee wrote: post #84
XCSme wrote: post #80

(commented on the wrong thread, HN doesn't let me delete it :( )

They're comparing to Opus 4.6, not 4.5. It was Anthropic's best public model up until last week.

Some people would say it's still Anthropic's best public model!

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by johndough »

gpm wrote: post #75
verdverm wrote: post #17

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.6 Is this the same model? Unsloth quants: https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Kimi-K2.6-GGUF (work in progress, no gguf files yet, header message saying as much)

Huh, so the metadata says 1.1 trillion parameters, each 32 or 16 bits. But the files are only roughly 640GB in size (~10GB * 64 files, slightly less in fact). Shouldn't they be closer to 2.2TB?

The bulk of Kimi-K2.6's parameters are stored with 4 bits per weight, not 16 or 32. There are a few parameters that are stored with higher precision, but they make up only a fraction of the total parameters.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Post by sigmoid10 »

dryarzeg wrote: post #82
sigmoid10 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? In your link it definitely failed to draw the clock.

I'm not really sure how this works, but I stayed on the page for a while, and then it reloaded and all clocks changed. I guess there's either a collection of different clocks generated by models, or maybe they're somehow generated in the real time, but the fact is what you see is not necessarily what I see.

Seems like it regenerates them to reflect the current time. Funny to see how some models (like Kimi and Deepseek) sometimes get it right and other times fail miserably on the level of ancient models like GPT 3.5.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#90

Post by fragmede »

amazingamazing wrote: post #13
motoboi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the previous generation? Yes. With 10T mythos-level models? Not even close.

The psyop continues. Mythos until it’s released is vaporware. Notice how you can try kimi 2.6. Where is the same for mythos?

It's been released to "select partners".
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