Ok I find it funny that people compare models and are like, opus 4.7 is SOTA and is much better etc, but I have used glm 5.1 (I assume this comes form them training on both opus and codex) for things opus couldn't do and have seen it make better code, haven't tried the qwen max series but I have seen the local 122b model do smarter more correct things based on docs than opus so yes benchmarks are one thing but realit…
I tried GLM5.1 last week after reading about it here. It was slow as molasses for routine tasks and I had to switch back to Claude. It also ran out of 5H credit limit faster than Claude.
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I tried GLM5.1 last week after reading about it here. It was slow as molasses for routine tasks and I had to switch back to Claude. It also ran out of 5H credit limit faster than Claude.
If you view the "thinking" traces you can see why; it will go back and forth on potential solutions, writing full implementations in the thinking block then debating them, constantly circling back to points it raised earlier, and starting every other paragraph with "Actually…" or "But wait!"
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#153Notice the pattern that Chinese providers are now: 1. Keeping models closed source. 2. Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase.
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I'd get a bit informed about what exactly Chinese dominance entails. Ask a few Uyghurs, Cantonese Hong Kongers, or even Tibetans. Then decide ...
Ask a few Native Americans about dominance. Or maybe families of African descent. Or maybe families of Japanese Americans who lived in the US during WWII. Or maybe people of Latin descent living in the US today.
You really don't see the difference?
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Many people averted religion (which I can get behind with), but have never removed the dogmatic thinking that lay at its root. As so many things these days: It's a cult. I've used Claude for many months now. Since February I see a stark decline in the work I do with it. I've also tried to use it for GPU programming where it absolutely sucks at, with Sonnet, Opus 4.5 and 4.6 But if you share that sentiment, it's alway…
I agree - the problem is it’s hard to see how people who say they’re using it effectively actually are using it, what they’re outputting, and making any sort of comparison on quality or maintainability or coherence. In the same way, it’s hard to see how people who say they’re struggling are actually using it. There’s truth somewhere in between “it’s the answer to everything” and “skill issue”. We know it’s overhyped.…
We're also seeing that the people up top are using this to cull the herd.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried GLM5.1 last week after reading about it here. It was slow as molasses for routine tasks and I had to switch back to Claude. It also ran out of 5H credit limit faster than Claude.
If you view the "thinking" traces you can see why; it will go back and forth on potential solutions, writing full implementations in the thinking block then debating them, constantly circling back to points it raised earlier, and starting every other paragraph with "Actually…" or "But wait!"
You’re absolutely right!
Jokes apart, I did notice GLM doing these back and forth loops.
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#160Nowadays, I'm working on a realtime path tracer where you need proper understanding of microfacet reflection models, PDFs, (multiple) importance sampling, ReSTIR, etc.. Saying that mine is a somewhat specific use case. And I use Claude, Gemini, GLM, Qwen to double check my math, my code and to get practical information to make my path tracer more efficient. Claude and Gemini failed me more than a couple of times with…
it puts a massive backstop at the margins they can possibly extract from users