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Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe because it's a bit of like unleashing a chaos monkey on your codebase? I tried it locally (K2.5 72B) and couldn't get anything useful.

Huh, that's not a thing?

The parent poster is probably referring to Kimi-Dev-72B¹, which is a much smaller and older model, while people are probably more familiar with the big and fairly powerful 1100B Kimi-K2.5².

[1] https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-Dev-72B

[2] https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.5

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#52

There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.

All great technological advancements have come through opening up technology. Just look at your iPhone. GPS, the internet, AI voice assistants, touchscreens, microprocessors, lithium-ion batteries, etc all came from gov't research (I'm counting Bell Labs' gov't mandated monopoly + research funding as gov't) that was opened up for free instead of being locked behind a patent.

Private companies will never open up a technological breakthrough to their competitors. It just doesn't make sense. If you want an entire field to advance, you have to open it up.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#58
Running it through opencode to their API and... it definitely seems like it's "overthinking" -- watching the thought process, it's been going for pages and pages and pages diagnosing and "thinking" things through... without doing anything. Sitting at 50k+ output tokens used now just going in thought circles, complete analysis paralysis.

Might be a configuration or prompt issue. I guess I'll wait and see, but I can't get use out of this now.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Wow, if the benchmarks checkout with the vibes, this could almost be like a Deepseek moment with Chinese AI now being neck and neck with SOTA US lab made models

With the previous generation? Yes. With 10T mythos-level models? Not even close.

I've got a 12T model on my machine, built it myself. It's called Mytho. Too dangerous to even release a fact sheet about it. It can hack into the mainframe, enhance ultra-compressed images, grow your hair back, and make people fall in love with you.
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