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Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by pydry »

tombert wrote: post #49
Bnjoroge wrote: post #35

Plenty of other companies enable this by default too, such as Github, Figma, Adobe, Vercel. I think it's fair to assume that if you ahve data stored within any company, they'll by default use it for training.

Maybe this will become The Year of the Self Hosted. For stuff that I don't particularly care about privacy I've kept on the cloud (e.g. my blog, which is public anyway and as such is probably training bots regardless), but for stuff that I don't want to be used to train their models and/or sell to advertisers I have moved to be self hosted on my own network.

self hosting needs to be easier to set up for that to happen.

we're not far off it being good enough but it's not there yet.

Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by somewhatgoated »

carld wrote: post #47
kevcampb wrote: post #2

I really wish I could find a better source to link to for this. By default, all free and paid customers are being opted-in to their data being used for AI training. All your Confluence pages, Jira tickets, etc. https://support.atlassian.com/security-and-access-policies/d... describes how to disable this, but it also appears that the setting to disable this doesn't exist (it's not visible on any of our instances).

I also do not see the setting to opt out. I'm at Atlassian Administration > Security, and I do not see Data contribution. I've looked at other, multiple setting pages and I do not see it. So, is this an automatic opt-in without the ability to opt-out?

Opt out features will be introduced at a later time

Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by an0malous »

rogerthis wrote: post #41
an0malous wrote: post #37

We need to kill SaaS. Apps should be local-first and have peer-to-peer data sync. These companies won't stop until they use your data to replace you and enrich their owners.

Beautiful on paper. But it does not scale outside a certain type of tech people.

What’s the scaling bottleneck? If you made a local-first, P2P version of Figma what would break first? For a company of like 50 people, I doubt you’d have more than 100GB of data so it should fit on everyone’s computers. The P2P syncing part seems solvable, even if you need a centralized handshake server somewhere. And from the user perspective I don’t see why the UX couldn’t be identical, so it’s all the same to them.

It seems like the real bottleneck is something else.

Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by jsk2600 »

pydry wrote: post #61
tombert wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this will become The Year of the Self Hosted. For stuff that I don't particularly care about privacy I've kept on the cloud (e.g. my blog, which is public anyway and as such is probably training bots regardless), but for stuff that I don't want to be used to train their models and/or sell to advertisers I have moved to be self hosted on my own network.

self hosting needs to be easier to set up for that to happen. we're not far off it being good enough but it's not there yet.

Atlassian made self-hosting 'less easier' on purpose. They even discontinued their on-prem products.

Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by [deleted] »

tombert wrote: post #49
Bnjoroge wrote: post #35

Plenty of other companies enable this by default too, such as Github, Figma, Adobe, Vercel. I think it's fair to assume that if you ahve data stored within any company, they'll by default use it for training.

Maybe this will become The Year of the Self Hosted. For stuff that I don't particularly care about privacy I've kept on the cloud (e.g. my blog, which is public anyway and as such is probably training bots regardless), but for stuff that I don't want to be used to train their models and/or sell to advertisers I have moved to be self hosted on my own network.

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Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by HoldOnAMinute »

rurp wrote: post #36
martinald wrote: post #4

Atlassian just goes from misstep to misstep. I still use their products quite often. The amount of P0 bugs I experience is absolutely crazy: - Bitbucket workers are hopelessly out of date (self hosted). We've had to put so many random workarounds in especially for Docker, as they don't keep them up to date enough - I have had a bug in JIRA for years where I can't reorder a new ticket unless I refresh the page - Every…

> I tried their AI stuff on the free trial, didn't work at all, tried to cancel, can't cancel the free trial online and had to write a load of support tickets (of which the support ticket contact form bugged out multiple times). Absolutely insane that this is legal. The only reason to do this is to trick and abuse customers. It would be trivially easy to legislate away if our government cared to. Atlassian seems like…

>> internal corruption and incompetence can run rampant

This affliction happens to almost every company, eventually. Nobody seems to have solved this.

Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by siva7 »

pydry wrote: post #59
wsatb wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The search function in Jira has always been unusable. It’s perhaps the worst part of the entire platform, but nice to see they’re still focused on adding features I will never use.

ironically it's the one place where an agent might be of some use and they created one and it's terrible.

at least they didn't break their pattern of disappointing users. consistency is key.

Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI

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Post by [deleted] »

pryanbeng wrote: post #48
kevcampb wrote: post #2

I really wish I could find a better source to link to for this. By default, all free and paid customers are being opted-in to their data being used for AI training. All your Confluence pages, Jira tickets, etc. https://support.atlassian.com/security-and-access-policies/d... describes how to disable this, but it also appears that the setting to disable this doesn't exist (it's not visible on any of our instances).

They said the opt out features will be rolled out to the Admin portal in May. I got this info from an email they sent out >To give you control over this change, we're introducing new in‑app settings that allow you to manage in‑app data contribution. Initially, these settings will apply to data in Jira, Confluence, and Jira Service Management, including data in your Atlassian Platform apps (Rovo, Home, Teams, Projects…

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