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Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

I use it and think its intelligence compares favorably with OpenAI and Anthropic workhorses. Its biggest weakness is its speed.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

Yes. GLM 5.1 is that good. I don't think it is as good as Claude was in January or February of this year, but it is similar to how Claude runs now, perhaps better because I feel like it's performance is more consistent.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#13
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

Yeah GLM’s great for coding, code review, and tool use. Not amazing at other domains.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#14
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

maybe they decided OpenAI has different market, hence comparing only with companies who are focusing in dev tooling: Claude, GLM

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#15
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

GLM 5.1 is pretty good, probably the best non-US agentic coding model currently available. But both GLM 5.0 and 5.1 have had issues with availability and performance that makes them frustrating to use. Recently GLM 5.1 was also outputting garbage thinking traces for me, but that appears to be fixed now.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#16
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

I'm using GLM 5.1 for the last two weeks as a cheaper alternative to Sonnet, and it's great - probably somewhere between Sonnet and Opus. It's pretty slow though.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#17
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

I've been using it through OpenCode Go and it does seem decent in my limited experience. I haven't done anything which I could directly compare to Opus yet though.

I did give it one task which was more complex and I was quite impressed by. I had a local setup with Tiltdev, K3S and a pnpm monorepo which was failing to run the web application dev server; GLM correctly figured out that it was a container image build cache issue after inspecting the containers etc and corrected the Tiltfile and build setup.

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#18
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

maybe they decided OpenAI has different market, hence comparing only with companies who are focusing in dev tooling: Claude, GLM

Haven’t you heard about Codex?

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

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post #15
post #8

I find it odd that none of OpenAI models was used in comparison, but used Z GLM 5.1. Is Z (GLM 5.1) really that good? It is crushing Opus 4.5 in these benchmarks, if that is true, I would have expected to read many articles on HN on how people flocked CC and Codex to use it.

GLM 5.1 is pretty good, probably the best non-US agentic coding model currently available. But both GLM 5.0 and 5.1 have had issues with availability and performance that makes them frustrating to use. Recently GLM 5.1 was also outputting garbage thinking traces for me, but that appears to be fixed now.

Use them via DeepInfra instead of z.ai. No reliability issues.

https://deepinfra.com/zai-org/GLM-5.1

Looks like fp4 quantization now though? Last week was showing fp8. Hm..

Re: Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving

#20
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe they decided OpenAI has different market, hence comparing only with companies who are focusing in dev tooling: Claude, GLM

Haven’t you heard about Codex?

its an SKU from OpenAI's perspective, broader goal and vision is (was) different. Look at the Claude and GLM, both were 95% committed to dev tooling: best coding models, coding harness, even their cowork is built on top of claude code
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