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Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by nsbk »

bluGill wrote: post #6
kyriakosel wrote: post #2

Author here. Methodology upfront because I'd ask the same things: Data: daily records from wearable users who logged sauna sessions via connected apps. Within-person design — each user is their own control, comparing their own sauna-day nights against their own non-sauna-day nights. No cross-user comparisons. Stats: paired t-tests, FDR-corrected p 0.2 threshold for "meaningful effect." Anything below d=0.2 we don't r…

The most important thing you didn't measure: does this affect long term health in the same way exercise it known to. That is can I put a TV in my sauna and watch that for an hour every day instead of getting out and exercising - yet get the same better long term health outcomes? My current guess is no. That is this improves a marker for good health without improving health. However this is a guess by someone who isn'…

I recently listened to a podcast about the benefits of sauna or deliberate heat exposure and the gist is that if you get your core temperature at about 39 degrees celsius your cardiovascular system is working comparably hard to light exercise.

My take is that your heart and lungs are working out, even if your body is not. Do you get the same benefits as going for a run or bike ride for a comparable amount of time? no, since your limbs don't get fit, but your heart and lungs do.

Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by flippyhead »

ckrapu wrote: post #7

I can tell you wrote the article with ChatGPT. I’m out as soon as I pick up the smell. I don’t dislike the usage of AI, I just don’t trust. It if you haven’t written it yourself.

I feel like we need an acronym for this kind of comment. I am pretty sure approximately 100% of HN posts now include at least one comment where someone, somehow, knows that an article is written by AI and resents it.

For Claude we have the ever present "you are absolutely right" and this is like it's human mirror.

Something like TLDR; but meaning "uhg, written by AI".

Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by danlitt »

amiga386 wrote: post #13
stevekemp wrote: post #4

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauna#Modern_saunas > In a typical Finnish sauna, the temperature of the air, the room, and the benches are above the dew point even when water is thrown on the hot stones and vaporized. Thus, they remain dry. In contrast, the sauna bathers are at about 60–80 °C (140–176 °F), which is below the dew point, so that water is condensed on the bathers' skin. This process releases heat and mak…

This just means the surfaces are dry. The commenter said the air is not dry.

Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by HelloMcFly »

bluGill wrote: post #6
kyriakosel wrote: post #2

Author here. Methodology upfront because I'd ask the same things: Data: daily records from wearable users who logged sauna sessions via connected apps. Within-person design — each user is their own control, comparing their own sauna-day nights against their own non-sauna-day nights. No cross-user comparisons. Stats: paired t-tests, FDR-corrected p 0.2 threshold for "meaningful effect." Anything below d=0.2 we don't r…

The most important thing you didn't measure: does this affect long term health in the same way exercise it known to. That is can I put a TV in my sauna and watch that for an hour every day instead of getting out and exercising - yet get the same better long term health outcomes? My current guess is no. That is this improves a marker for good health without improving health. However this is a guess by someone who isn'…

> That is this improves a marker for good health without improving health

There is a substantial body of existing research to peruse about the impact of regular sauna use on health outcomes, much of it from Finland given the prevalence of sauna usage there allowing for larger sample sizes. It's a body of evidence rather than one knock-out experimental design.

Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by thundergolfer »

flippyhead wrote: post #22
ckrapu wrote: post #7

I can tell you wrote the article with ChatGPT. I’m out as soon as I pick up the smell. I don’t dislike the usage of AI, I just don’t trust. It if you haven’t written it yourself.

I feel like we need an acronym for this kind of comment. I am pretty sure approximately 100% of HN posts now include at least one comment where someone, somehow, knows that an article is written by AI and resents it. For Claude we have the ever present "you are absolutely right" and this is like it's human mirror. Something like TLDR; but meaning "uhg, written by AI".

This article is a brilliant skewering of the 'em dash means LLM' heuristic as a broken trick deployed by those too-clever-by-half.

1. https://www.scottsmitelli.com/articles/em-dash-tool/

Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by lfuller »

bluGill wrote: post #6
kyriakosel wrote: post #2

Author here. Methodology upfront because I'd ask the same things: Data: daily records from wearable users who logged sauna sessions via connected apps. Within-person design — each user is their own control, comparing their own sauna-day nights against their own non-sauna-day nights. No cross-user comparisons. Stats: paired t-tests, FDR-corrected p 0.2 threshold for "meaningful effect." Anything below d=0.2 we don't r…

The most important thing you didn't measure: does this affect long term health in the same way exercise it known to. That is can I put a TV in my sauna and watch that for an hour every day instead of getting out and exercising - yet get the same better long term health outcomes? My current guess is no. That is this improves a marker for good health without improving health. However this is a guess by someone who isn'…

This feels like a false dichotomy. Even if sauna doesn't impact long term health in a way that can replace exercise, that doesn't mean that it doesn't improve health.

Re: Sauna effect on heart rate

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Post by victorbjorklund »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #9
stevekemp wrote: post #4

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There are different kinds of saunas. Nobody gets into a 90c humid sauna, that would just kill you.

Haha no, I been in 90c saunas many times. Can I stay there for a long time? Heck no. But some people can and it doesn’t kill you (maybe if you have some preexisting condition)
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