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NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #22

The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.

Snowdens document leaks happened in 2013 (implying the surveillance state was set up well before then). So this is more a leisurely stroll than a sprint.

The zamboni of fascism is slowly moving towards us, and we are jist laying on the ice waiting to be sliced up

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #59

The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course. But consider this: Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA acc…

Worth noting that Trump was one who labeled them a supply chain risk for the horrible crime of setting really basic guardrails around usage. (And it's "lose" btw)

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#63
Somewhat related: someone posted a theory on reddit that Claude Code's new /ultrareview actually uses Mythos.

Does that seem plausible to anyone else? It runs on their cloud. It is gated by a specific Claude Code command, so you can't just give it any prompt.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #22

The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.

last week's "truth" (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1164091464198...)

"I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country! Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield."

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #9

This is not surprising. Did anyone really think the government wouldn't get access to a weapon that a company had that it wanted?

You're misunderstanding. The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this "weapon."

It's quite obvious they just wanted to punish Anthropic, all this supply chain risk is a joke.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#67

Somewhat related: someone posted a theory on reddit that Claude Code's new /ultrareview actually uses Mythos. Does that seem plausible to anyone else? It runs on their cloud. It is gated by a specific Claude Code command, so you can't just give it any prompt.

It would be pretty simple to see what API they're calling.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #59

The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course. But consider this: Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA acc…

'Anthropic is / isn't lying about Mytho's capabilities' is the less interesting conversation.

The more interesting one is:

   1. Assuming even incremental AI coding intelligence improvements
   2. Assuming increased AI coding intelligence enables it to uncover new zero day bugs in existing software
   3. Then open source vs closed source and security/patch timelines will all need to fundamentally change
Whether or not Mythos qualifies as (1), as long as (2) is true then it seems there will eventually be a model with improvements, which leads to (3) anyway.

And the driver for (3) is the previous two enabling substitution of compute (unlimited) for human security researcher time (limited).

Which begs questions about whether closed source will provide any protection (it doesn't appear so, given how able AI tools already are at disassembly?), whether model rollouts now need to have a responsible disclosure time built in before public release, and how geopolitics plays into this (is Mythos access being offered to the Chinese government?).

It'll be curious what happens when OpenAI ships their equivalent coding model upgrade... especially if they YOLO the release without any responsible disclosure periods.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Out of curiosity, how does "Axios" know what the NSA is using?

> The National Security Agency is using Anthropic's most powerful model yet, Mythos Preview, despite top officials at the Department of Defense — which oversees the NSA — insisting the company is a "supply chain risk," two sources tell Axios.

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/19/nsa-anthropic-mythos-pentag...

"two sources" I guess

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #64
post #22

The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.

last week's "truth" ( https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1164091464198... ) "I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country! Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield."

I thought you were quoting a propaganda ad from starship troopers for a second there
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