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Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by foobiekr »

mh2266 wrote: post #50

WTF is any of this, is there some ELI5/OOTL explanation? I work in big tech and have never heard anyone talk about "peptides". Is this a startup scene thing or just an SF thing? (I live in New York) all of my coworkers are pretty normal, sure there are the stereotypical fitness types that are marathon training, cycling, or have a climbing gym membership but no one is talking about buying weird Chinese drugs

I work in big tech and several of my older colleagues are ALL IN on peptides. Fountain of youth stuff.

Frankly as I am aging myself and noticing a lot of changes to recovery time and overall physically feeling good, I can totally understand getting on testosterone, for example, but random peptides that show up in white bags from random Chinese labs? no.

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by KaiserPro »

ambicapter wrote: post #4

I think this author has a very different conception of what “sincerity” is than I do, but I guess that’s the difference between the east coast and the west coast.

The author outlines what they mean quite well. I think the point I would make is, when someone says "a ware house of twinks worshiping claude" you'd go "what in the living fuck are they doing that for?" not "oh that sounds cool"

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by KaiserPro »

richard___ wrote: post #11

My issue with this article is the author writes about them in a frame that says “they are so quirky and this makes them cool / good” when really they are a bunch of degenerates.

I don't get that at all. He is taking the piss somewhat, but not in some cases he's sympathetic (warehouse twinks) sometimes disapproving (eugenicists )

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by theahura »

ericskiff wrote: post #80
AstroBen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What’s not talked about is the long-term consequences of falling into these groups where excessive drug self-experimentation is normalized. Lots of people from the 2010-ish era of "aesthetics" and steroids are having heart issues now in their 30s (or earlier). Pretty sad to see. To me it's fairly clear where this comes from: ambitious people convinced they've figured out some secret cheat code that no-one else has.…

That comment seemed to revolve around consent. Willful, nonconsensual dosing of anyone with any drug is a violation, and yes doing it and bragging about it is reprehensible.

To be clear, as far as I am aware, there was nothing that I heard or saw that would be remotely considered non consensual dosing.

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by Barrin92 »

rexpop wrote: post #62
adregan wrote: post #19

I’m not really understanding the notion that these people are so sincere. Perhaps we have different definitions of sincerity. To my eye, the entire fascination of unsafely injecting peptides in a desire to change your being is largely the opposite of sincerity.

> If a 14 year old says that they are going to change the world, they are being very sincere even if an ‘adult’ knows that the likelihood is low. No, it's really a form of sincerity permitted by a sort of willfully affected naivete—adopted in pursuit of the strategy of Twain's amateur: > The best swordsman in the world doesn’t need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of…

>No, it's really a form of sincerity permitted by a sort of willfully affected naivete

The willful part turns the sincerity into nihilism, people who utter sentences like:

"I could fill a notebook of quotes from this conversation. “They change your personality, it’s literally made me less shallow knowing that we can just looksmax you.” “Ugliness is just a choice now.” “I shot up a twink with ozempic who did not need to lose any weight.”"

pretty obviously don't sincerely believe what they say, quite the opposite, it's just a giant joke they're consciously in that would go away they moment they ran out of venture money or whatever finances these parties and lifestyles. These people all sound like William Gibson characters which they are aware of because they're the type of people to register that, it's like the Great Gatsby but with cringy nerds

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by operatingthetan »

Barrin92 wrote: post #107
rexpop wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If a 14 year old says that they are going to change the world, they are being very sincere even if an ‘adult’ knows that the likelihood is low. No, it's really a form of sincerity permitted by a sort of willfully affected naivete—adopted in pursuit of the strategy of Twain's amateur: > The best swordsman in the world doesn’t need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of…

>No, it's really a form of sincerity permitted by a sort of willfully affected naivete The willful part turns the sincerity into nihilism, people who utter sentences like: "I could fill a notebook of quotes from this conversation. “They change your personality, it’s literally made me less shallow knowing that we can just looksmax you.” “Ugliness is just a choice now.” “I shot up a twink with ozempic who did not need…

I'm a bit confused why we are taking the drunk ramblings of people at some party so seriously. Nothing in these sentences is that weird or shocking, it's just people trying to impress each other, or fit in, or learn stuff. A lot of it is probably just made up. Nothing here is very SF-specific, except it sounds like these people use reddit a lot.

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by operatingthetan »

dw_arthur wrote: post #74

Injecting unregulated chemicals into your body is something you may regret in the future. If you inject a Chinese peptide to improve your sleep quality score and three years later you're diagnosed with cancer the inscrutable nature of causality in the body may drive you mad.

Bad news, a large portion of the "compounded GLP-1" market are re-sold Chinese peptides.

Re: Notes from the SF peptide scene

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Post by rootsudo »

disposablehn wrote: post #53

Good to see the vibe hasn't changed. At least since I lived there in the 1990s, parties with heavy drugs and crazy sex have always been linked with a faction of the tech scene. I moved to the Bay Area in 1990 after graduation to work a corporate job in the valley but quit shortly after meeting a group of eccentrics that ran a small business setting up networks for commercial clients and joined their gig. I was making…

In mainstream this is classed as a nomad/org/network house to a trap house. It’s interesting the diversity of people at each socioeconomic level.

Can’t escape human network effects and game theory/schelling point dynamics.

Just funny to really see the reinvention of the wheel.

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