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Vercel April 2026 security incident

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Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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https://x.com/theo/status/2045871215705747965 - "Everything I know about this hack suggests it could happen to any host" He also suggests in another post that Linear and GitHub could also be pwned? Either way, hugops to all the SRE/DevOps out there, seems like it's going to be a busy Sunday for many.

> @theo: "I have reason to believe this is credible. If you are using Vercel, it’s a good idea to roll your secrets and env vars." > @ErdalToprak: "And use your own vps or k3s cluster there’s no reason in 2026 to delegate your infra to a middle man except if you’re at AWS level needs" > @theo: "This is still a stupid take" lol, okay. Thanks for the insight, Theo, whoever you are.

What is AWS level needs?

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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Claude Code defaulting to a certain set of recommended providers[0] and frameworks is making the web more homogenous and that lack of diversity is increasing the blast radius of incidents [0] https://amplifying.ai/research/claude-code-picks/report

The thing I can’t stop thinking about is that Ai is accelerating convergence to the mean (I may be misusing that) The internet does that but it feels different with this

> convergence to the mean

That's a funny way of saying "race to the bottom."

> The internet does that but it feels different with this

How does "the internet do that?" What force on the internet naturally brings about mediocrity? Or have we confused rapacious and monopolistic corporations with the internet at large?

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

#153
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> The only reason to dramatically overpay for the hosting resources they provide is because you expect them to expertly manage security and stability. This and because it's so convenient to click some buttons and have your application running. I've stopped being lazy, though. Moved everything from Render to linode. I was paying render $50+/month. Now I'm paying $3-5. I would never use one of those hosting providers a…

Looking at linode, those prices get you an instance with 1Gb of ram and a mediocre CPU. So you are running all of your applications on that?

Personal projects/MVPs/small projects? Absolutely. For what I'm running, there's no reason to need anything beyond that.

The point is, I used to just throw everything up on a PaaS. Heroku/Render, etc. and pay way more than I needed to, even if I had 0 users, lol.

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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Much as I want to rip on vercel, its clear that ai is going to lead to mass security breaches. The attack surface is so large, and ai agents are working around the clock. This is a new normal. Open source software is going to change, companies wont be running random repos off github anymore

LOL. Attackers will run these agents but the thousands of maintainers will be so dumb to sit idly and get hammered with exploits. I wonder what the ratio of attackers to maintainers must be, 1:1000 is a fair assessment i take it.

Also LLMs will be used to attack only, no one will be smart to integrate it into CI flows, because everyone is that dumb. No security tools will pop up.

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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What is the rationale for using vercel ? I'm getting a lot of value out of cloudflare with the $5/month plan lately but my bare metal box with triple digit ram has seen zero downtime since 2015.

it's free for newbies and everyone, ofc it's a trap but freemium model gets people. aws can cost easily few thousands with 2-3 mistakes and clicks. vercel makes you start free then if you grow they bill you 10x-100x aws

I dunno I put a lot of traffic through Vercel, maybe 100k visitors per day, and it was under a few hundred a month. I think a couple EC2 instances behind a load balancer would cost similar or more. I was under the impression that its still a VC subsidized service.

They regularly try to get me to join an enterprise plan but no service cutoff threats yet.

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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It's a good point, but I don't think the problem here is Claude. It's how you use it. We need to be guiding developers to not let Claude make decisions for them. It can help guide decisions, but ultimately one must perform the critical thinking to make sure it is the right choice. This is no different than working with any other teammate for that matter.

I think most people would agree. However it is less clear on how to do this, people mostly take the easiest path.

> a. Actually do something sane but it will eat your session

> b. (Recommended) Do something that works now, you can always make it better later

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

#158
post #105

What is the rationale for using vercel ? I'm getting a lot of value out of cloudflare with the $5/month plan lately but my bare metal box with triple digit ram has seen zero downtime since 2015.

They put a massive amount of VC cash into convincing people that Next.js was "the modern way" to create a website. Then they got lucky with the timing of LLMs becoming popular while they were the hot thing, leading LLMs to default to it when creating new websites. To picture that amount of VC cash - they're at Series F , and a huge chunk of that went towards marketing. Both have been changing as people realize it's r…

So glad I decided to just stick with django/htmx on my project a few years ago. I invested a little time into nextjs and came to the conclusion that this can't be the way.

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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post #116

Claude Code defaulting to a certain set of recommended providers[0] and frameworks is making the web more homogenous and that lack of diversity is increasing the blast radius of incidents [0] https://amplifying.ai/research/claude-code-picks/report

That's the irony of Mythos. It doesn't need to exist. LLM vibe slop has already eroded the security of your average site.

Self fulfilling prophecy: You don't need to secure anything because it doesn't make a difference, as Mythos is not just a delicious Greek beer, but also a super-intelligent system that will penetrate any of your cyber-defenses anyway.

Re: Vercel April 2026 security incident

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Very nice developer experience. A lot of batteries included, like CDN, incremental page regeneration, image pipeline or observability. Not having to maintain a server. I’m still planning to move elsewhere though, the vendor lock-in is not worth it and I’d like to keep our infra in the EU.

All of this is available in Cloudflare $5 plan?

In my experience it severely lacks on developer experience, compared to Vercel.
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