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Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by gib444 »

antirez wrote: post #9

I moved two servers, one from Linode and the other from DO to Hetzner a few months ago, with similar savings. The best part was that the two servers had tens of different sites running, implemented in different languages, with obsolete libraries, MySQL and Redis instances. A total mess. Well: Claude Code migrated it all, sometimes rewriting parts when the libraries where no longer available. Today complex migrations…

Let me guess: the Pro subscription was totally sufficient even using the expensive model and it only took an hour?

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by locknitpicker »

mariopt wrote: post #128

Every time I see this kind of article, no one really bothers about sb/server redundancy, load balancers, etc. are we ok with just 1 big server that may fail and bring several services down? You saved a lot of money but you'll spend a lot of time in maintenance and future headaches.

> Every time I see this kind of article, no one really bothers about sb/server redundancy, load balancers, etc. are we ok with just 1 big server that may fail and bring several services down?

It seems that to start off the original system was hosted on a single Digital Ocean droplet with 32vCPUs and a total 192GB of RAM.

They switched to a single Hetzner AX162-R instance.

So the blogger switched from a single odd with 32 vCPUs to a dedicated server running a AMD EPYC 9454P and 256GB of RAM.

That should answer your question with a clear yes.

> You saved a lot of money but you'll spend a lot of time in maintenance and future headaches.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by creamyhorror »

binkHN wrote: post #382
Aurornis wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a lot of these posts on Reddit, too, but I don't think it's actually Anthropic or Claude doing it. It's the same old Reddit karma farmers picking up on the latest trends. They've always combined headlines with ragebait to build karma and now LLM bots make it easier than ever. It's too bad Reddit allows accounts to hide their comment history now. That was an easy way to identify bot accounts before they started…

> the same old Reddit karma farmers What's the point of these Internet points?

The accounts are worth something later (e.g. for spreading opinions or promoting something) and can be sold.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by cowoder »

pbgcp2026 wrote: post #373
fuckinpuppers wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linode is going to lose my business in the next couple months as well. Been there over a decade, have referred countless customers to them, but they’ve kept bumping up prices over and over and I can get a dedicated server at Hetzner or other places with 8x the memory, dedicated NVMe disks, dedicated CPU for cheaper. Sure you lose a little of the benefit of a “virtual” server which can be migrated but Hetzner’s suppor…

... expect Hetzner raising prices in ... 3 ... 2 ... 1

They just did a massive increase: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi...

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by trinix912 »

rpcope1 wrote: post #205
alternatex wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS ain't no Mercedes. Mercedes feels premium and isn't full of bugs. AWS and Azure a charging an arm and a leg, but the offered quality is mostly perceived. Most of the bits and bobs they charge for are not providing much value for a vast majority of businesses. I won't even go over the complete lack of ergonomics with their portals.

> Mercedes feels premium and isn't full of bugs. I see you've never actually owned or worked on a German car, especially in relation to even modest Japanese models. Maybe they were a little nicer inside in the 80s and maybe 90s, but "German car" and frankly "European make" is basically synonymous with "big expensive pile of shit that's an expensive pain in the ass when things start falling apart (which they seem to w…

I've worked on many German cars and the amount of bullshit repairs (ie. stuff breaking because of obviously poor engineering) I had to do on them was just way lower than on Ford/Chevrolet cars that are supposedly less over-engineered. French cars, on the other hand, are somehow even worse.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by dependsontheq »

dependsontheq wrote: post #396

Hetzner is in my hometown and they are such a team of decent, no marketing, no frills, we build infrastructure team.

They remind me of all the other German Mittelstand family run companies - we will do one thing and we will do it in the most efficient way possible.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by matteocontrini »

boulos wrote: post #291
dabinat wrote: post #275

I’m formulating plans to switch from AWS to Hetzner. Amazon gets you by charging high prices (sometimes 20x more than competitors) and forcing you to make long-term commitments in order to get the prices to somewhere more reasonable. Then they make it exorbitantly expensive to migrate your data anywhere else. It’s a very customer-hostile approach that I’m tired of at this point. Amazon might think that they’re lockin…

This used to be true, but GCP forced their hand in January of 2024 with https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/networking/eliminatin... AWS matched a few months later: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/free-data-transfer-out-to-i... I'm not trying to convince you to stay (I work for neither anymore!), just wanted to note that you can technically request a waiver. I'm not sure how this works in practice though. Like, i…

The EU Data Act forbids cloud switching charges, that's why they made these changes (while presenting them as if they cared about customers being charged for switching away):

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/factpages/data-act-...

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by _mitterpach »

jwr wrote: post #243
adamcharnock wrote: post #62

This is something we've[0] done a number of times for customers coming from various cloud providers. In our case we move customers onto a multi-server (sometimes multi-AZ) deployment in Hetzner, using Kubernetes to distribute workloads across servers and provide HA. Kubernetes is likely a lot for a single node deployment such as the OP, but it makes a lot more sense as soon as multiple nodes are involved. For backups…

> We also find bare metal to be a lot more performant in general I measured this several years back and never looked at virtual servers again. Since CPU time isn't reserved (like RAM is), the performance is abysmal compared to real hardware. https://jan.rychter.com/enblog/cloud-server-cpu-performance-...

That’s a really good article, thank you for sharing. Has anything in the field changed since 2019, or is the situation still roughly the same?

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by matteocontrini »

timwis wrote: post #133
mariopt wrote: post #128

Every time I see this kind of article, no one really bothers about sb/server redundancy, load balancers, etc. are we ok with just 1 big server that may fail and bring several services down? You saved a lot of money but you'll spend a lot of time in maintenance and future headaches.

I wondered the same! FWIW I'm currently migrating from managed postgres to self-managed on hetzner with [autobase]( https://autobase.tech/ ). Though of course for high availability it requires more than one server.

Beware of Hetzner Cloud volumes, they're unusable for a database, they're too slow. I'm not sure what workloads people run on Hetzner but the low-performance volumes and unreliable load balancers don't seem like a good fit for real production stuff with traffic.
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