I don't like the conception that a poem should rhyme.
I know that the poems I find most brilliant never do.
Show HN: An IDE for poets
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#112Is this just in the air right now? ( I built this over the weekend: http://dzucconi.github.com/haiku )
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#113I don't like the conception that a poem should rhyme. I know that the poems I find most brilliant never do.
The question, of course, when you liberate the poem from rhyme, is "what is a poem?" What now differentiates a poem from prose?
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#114This is really interesting, and a beautiful little project. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be of any use to actual poets... Rhyming isn't really in style for modern poetry, and what there is is usually more subtle internal rhymes rather than heavy end-rhymes. Still, this is a ton of fun to write doggrel with. (source: my wife has an MFA in poetry)
Ditto - my partner is poet ... this is neat, but doesn't relate to what poets do nowadays.
That said, this has prompted some very interesting discussion of what kinds of tools /would/ be useful.
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#115Kind of fun actually. Here's my poem:
This is a test It does not attest. I want to go to the park But I'm not a patriarch
Do you like it?
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#116Kind of fun actually. Here's my poem: This is a test It does not attest. I want to go to the park But I'm not a patriarch Do you like it?
Darn it put my poem all on one line. You get the idea.
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#117This is really interesting, and a beautiful little project. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be of any use to actual poets... Rhyming isn't really in style for modern poetry, and what there is is usually more subtle internal rhymes rather than heavy end-rhymes. Still, this is a ton of fun to write doggrel with. (source: my wife has an MFA in poetry)
Perhaps your observation indicates a defect of "modern" poetry, a defect that a project such as this might help remedy. I'd wager that Homer, Dante, and Shakespeare would be surprised to learn that non-rhyming poetry was ever "in style"—though I suppose dactylic hexameter, terza rima, and sonnets are a bit end-rhyme-heavy.
Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets
#118This is really interesting, and a beautiful little project. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be of any use to actual poets... Rhyming isn't really in style for modern poetry, and what there is is usually more subtle internal rhymes rather than heavy end-rhymes. Still, this is a ton of fun to write doggrel with. (source: my wife has an MFA in poetry)
Perhaps your observation indicates a defect of "modern" poetry, a defect that a project such as this might help remedy. I'd wager that Homer, Dante, and Shakespeare would be surprised to learn that non-rhyming poetry was ever "in style"—though I suppose dactylic hexameter, terza rima , and sonnets are a bit end-rhyme-heavy.
Why does a poem need to rhyme before it can be considered free of defects?
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#119This is lovely. I always get a special joy from seeing things like this. This is something I would never have thought of. It fills such an obvious hole in hindsight. It opens up a place where folk can suddenly experiment and play with something that they might have been afraid of previously. It opens things up. This reminds me of when I helped out with some teacher training in my teens waaaaay back in 1986/87. We wer…
Anecdotes like yours are one of the main reasons I read HN. Thanks for sharing. Now back to the subject of the thread, kudos to the author. Every time I try conveying an idea into a poem I get stuck on the sounds of the words; it's rather hard to me to find the right rhymes, especially since English is not my native language and I'm used to read far more than to listen to it. And back to another side note, I stumbled…
If you like this kind of anecdotes, you should read "Mindstorms" by Seymour Papert. It's more about maths than writing, but it's filled with examples showing how the fact that computers allow children to make mistakes, and then fix them, changes deeply the way to teach.
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#120This is lovely. I always get a special joy from seeing things like this. This is something I would never have thought of. It fills such an obvious hole in hindsight. It opens up a place where folk can suddenly experiment and play with something that they might have been afraid of previously. It opens things up. This reminds me of when I helped out with some teacher training in my teens waaaaay back in 1986/87. We wer…
Anecdotes like yours are one of the main reasons I read HN. Thanks for sharing. Now back to the subject of the thread, kudos to the author. Every time I try conveying an idea into a poem I get stuck on the sounds of the words; it's rather hard to me to find the right rhymes, especially since English is not my native language and I'm used to read far more than to listen to it. And back to another side note, I stumbled…
Anecdotes like yours are one of the main reasons I read HN. Thanks for sharing.
Y'welcome. Have another from the same session of teacher training. It's one I trot out while wearing my UX hat when folk talk about 'intuitive' interfaces.
This was late eighties remember. In the UK too. Mice were not common. Almost everybody we put down in front of one had problems initially. This was often the first time these folk had been in front of a computer - let alone one with a mouse.
In one case I had to take the mouse apart (look here's this ball - it moves against these rollers - they send the x/y changes to the computer, that moves the little arrow on the screen) before the teacher 'got it'.
Intuitive? Ain't no such thing ;-)