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Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

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Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#81

I was using Opus 4.7 just yesterday to help implement best practices on a single page website. After just ~4 prompts I blew past my daily limit. Another ~7 more prompts & I blew past my weekly limit. The entire HTMl/CSS/JS was less than 300 lines of code. I was shocked how fast it exhausted my usage limits.

Which plan are you on? I could see that happening with Pro (which I think defaults to Sonnet?), would be surprised with Max…

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#82

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>we don't want a hard dependency on another multi-billion dollar company just to write software One of two main reasons why I'm wary of LLMs. The other is fear of skill atrophy. These two problems compound. Skill atrophy is less bad if the replacement for the previous skill does not depend on a potentially less-than-friendly party.

You can argu that you will have skill atrophy by not using LLMs. We have gone multi cloud disaster recovery on our infrastructure. Something I would not have done yet, had we not had LLMs. I am learning at an incredible rate with LLMs.

> I am learning at an incredible rate with LLMs

Could you do it again without the help of an LLM?

If no, then can you really claim to have learned anything?

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#83

I was using Opus 4.7 just yesterday to help implement best practices on a single page website. After just ~4 prompts I blew past my daily limit. Another ~7 more prompts & I blew past my weekly limit. The entire HTMl/CSS/JS was less than 300 lines of code. I was shocked how fast it exhausted my usage limits.

Are you using Claude subscription? Because that's not how it works there.

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#84

Makes me think the model could actually not even be smarter necessarily, just more token dependent.

Asking a seller to sell less.

That's an incentive difficult to reconcile with the user's benefit.

To keep this business running they do need to invest to make the best model, period.

It happens to be exactly what Anthropic's strategy is. That and great tooling.

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#85
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Why is it not useful? Input token pricing is the same for 4.7. The same prompt costs roughly 30% more now, for input.

The idea is that smarter models might use fewer turns to accomplish the same task - reducing the overall token usage Though, from my limited testing, the new model is far more token hungry overall

Well you‘ll need the same prompt for input tokens?

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#86

Subsidies don't last forever.

Tell that to oil and defense companies.

If tech companies convince Congress that AI is an existential issue (in defense or even just productivity), then these companies will get subsidies forever.

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#87
post #81

I was using Opus 4.7 just yesterday to help implement best practices on a single page website. After just ~4 prompts I blew past my daily limit. Another ~7 more prompts & I blew past my weekly limit. The entire HTMl/CSS/JS was less than 300 lines of code. I was shocked how fast it exhausted my usage limits.

Which plan are you on? I could see that happening with Pro (which I think defaults to Sonnet?), would be surprised with Max…

It eats even the Max plan like crazy.

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#88

If anyone's had 4.7 update any documents so far - notice how concise it is at getting straight to the point. It rewrote some of my existing documentation (using Windsurf as the harness), not sure I liked the decrease in verbosity (removed columns and combined / compressed concepts) but it makes sense in respect to the model outputting less to save cost. To me this seems more that it's trained to be concise by default…

Interesting. In conversational use, it's noticeably more verbose.

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#89

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Any recommendations on good open ones? What are you using primarily?

qwen3.5/3.6 (30B) works well,locally, with opencode

I want to bump this more than just a +1 by recommending everyone try out OpenCode. It can still run on a Codex subscription so you aren’t in fully unfamiliar territory but unlocks a lot of options.

Re: Anonymous request-token comparisons from Opus 4.6 and Opus 4.7

#90

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Any recommendations on good open ones? What are you using primarily?

qwen3.5/3.6 (30B) works well,locally, with opencode

How are you running it with opencode, any tips/pointers on the setup?
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