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Why Japan has such good railways

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Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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Japan railways are mostly (all?) privately owned.

But by companies that care about running railways, not by vultures that want to rip the companies apart and load them up with debt for their own short-term profits.

So western MBAs are the problem. I’ve long held this view.

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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Funny how people always endlessly worry about water supply, its one of those things that is very easy to claim but very hard to prove an in 99.9% of times there really isn't an issue.

People can live without a high speed train. They cannot live without a clean water supply Seems to me that the priorities are correct

Ok but here is the thing, Japan had great civil engineering for 100 years, they have made lots and lots and lots of tunnels. Japan overall has fantastic water quality and is globally known for clean and safe bathrooms.

So the argument that 'new train X will destroy the water supply' really needs to be based on a whole stack of good evidence.

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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one thing worth pointing out is that the legacy private railways work because they were never nationalized and had decades to quietly buy up land around stations before it was worth anything. That's really hard to replicate from scratch. This model is great in dense cities but even Japan is still struggling with rural lines

Exactly. Tokyu's model of building a train line from the city center to rural areas and then building suburban developments in the rural areas the line traverses doesn't work in already built-up areas. Hence, there are still publicly-owned lines in areas where that model doesn't work. A great example is the Yokohama Municipal Subway. It is publicly owned and serves areas that were generally already built before the subway line was built.

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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This is a great article, but I think it’s hard to ignore that Japan’s culture of harmony is a big part of why they were able to choose sensible regulations that benefitted everyone. We struggle to pass even the most sensible land use reforms because entrenched interests want to remain entrenched even if it hurts the system overall.

So America's culture of individual liberty is why people don't have the freedom to build whatever they want on the land that they own?

American's culture of me, me, me, now, now, now is why.

If it doesn't benefit the individual almost immediately they're strongly opposed.

They want the benefits of strong infrastructure but let someone else build it without inconveniencing ME or costing ME a dime.

It is a culture that teaches greed is good and society should be built around all gain no cost.

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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That is a good point but I think it doesn't apply everywhere.that has a similar shape. New Zealand has a similar shape but without railways interconnecting cities. You cannot cross the country, the islands, or even regions by train. I think this could be a variable to contribute to a good coverage and infrastructure... but there are probably more factors involved.

The population density is probably one factor. New Zealand has 5.34 million people in 103,000 square miles. At the other extreme you have Hong Kong with 7.5 million people in 430 square miles. Each mile of track gives service to a much larger percentage of the population in Hong Kong than New Zealand. The same goes for a lot of the United States. The coastal corridors in the United States are population dense, but th…

Population density is one thing. Another issue is timing.

New Zealand was a really young country when railway technology came along, and didn't really have enough time or money to invest in a good railway network before other technology came along.

Airplanes are the perfect technology for NZ's geography, because they just fly over everything. There are actually a few places in NZ that received passenger airline service in the 30s before they received a railway connection (namely Gisborne), and many other places that never received railway connections.

At the same time, NZ was one of the fastest adopters of the automobiles, second only to America.

I think viable cars and airplanes had taken another 25 years to arrive, NZ might have had a much more complete railway network, with a much better chance of surviving intact into the modern era.

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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Japanese public transport is good, but no match for the Swiss system. Outside of big cities, the coverage is spotty, and even reasonably large towns are only connected by reserved-only trains every couple of hours that get booked out days in advance. The almost complete lack of digitization is also remarkable (reservations have to be made with machines in the stations). There are other annoyances such as the public t…

How could a route busy enough to completely fill a train every few hours not justify some kind of regularly scheduled service?

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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This is a great article, but I think it’s hard to ignore that Japan’s culture of harmony is a big part of why they were able to choose sensible regulations that benefitted everyone. We struggle to pass even the most sensible land use reforms because entrenched interests want to remain entrenched even if it hurts the system overall.

> because entrenched interests want to remain entrenched even if it hurts the system overall.

You might say it's because we live in a "low trust society," but not for the reasons the people who usually invoke that term claim.

Re: Why Japan has such good railways

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>how ingenious Japan’s system of zoning is I'm only barely familiar with it so I ask this in good faith: is it really ingenious or is it just more permissive? My bias/priors are that the simpler and truer statement is: it can't be overstated how beneficial more permissive zoning laws are to a society.

That's a big part of it. They also do zoning mostly at the federal level, meaning local opposition isn't relevant.

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