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Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by traceroute66 »

treesknees wrote: post #36
traceroute66 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because with a single-server setup like this, I'd imagine that hardware ... Yeah. This blog post reads like it was written by someone who didn't think things through and just focused on hyper-agressive cost-cutting. I bet their DigitalOcean vm did live migrations and supported snapshots. You can get that at Hetzner but only in their cloud product. You absolutely will not get that in Hetzner bare-metal. If your HD o…

For the price, they could buy an exact replica bare metal server and still save money.

> they could

They could, but they didn't and instead they wrote that blog post which, even being generous is still kinda hard to avoid describing as misleading.

I would not have written the post I did if they had presented a multi-node bare-metal cluster or whatever more realistic config.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by esafak »

thisislife2 wrote: post #19
orsorna wrote: post #4

I always appreciate savings posts, but is $14k USD annual really make or break for a Turkish business? I would not know.

If you only have Rs. 100 in your pocket, you will think hard before spending Rs. 10. If you have Rs. 1000 in your pocket, you will not mind spending Rs. 10. That said, even if you are financially sound, why in the world would you want to pay $14k extra for a similar service that is available cheaper? That money could be better utilised elsewhere.

Most Turks will have zero Rs. in their pocket :)

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by dividuum »

largbae wrote: post #31

The migration sharing is admirable and useful teaching, thank you! I see the DigitalOcean vs Hetzner comparison as a tradeoff that we make in different domains all day long, similar to opening your DoorDash or UberEats instead of making your own dinner(and the cost ratio is similar too). I work in all 3 major clouds, on-prem, the works. I still head to the DigitalOcean console for bits and pieces type work or proof o…

Not sure if I understand what you’re trying to say, but Hetzner's Console works just like that too.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by apitman »

I wish we had something like Hetzner dedicated near us-east-1.

They do offer VPS in the US and the value is great. I was seriously looking at moving our academic lab over from AWS but server availability was bad enough to scare me off. They didn't have the instances we needed reliably. Really hoping that calms down.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by OutOfHere »

Didn't Hetzner prices increase 30-40% recently? See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47120145

As such, I doubt the noted price reduction is reproducible. Combine this with Hetzner's sudden deletions of user accounts and services without warning, and it's a bad proposition. Search r/hetzner and r/vps for hetzner for these words: banned, deleted, terminated; there are many reports. What should stun you even more about it is that Hetzner could ostensibly be closely spying on user data and workloads, even offline workloads, without which they won't even know who to ban.

The only thing that Hetzner might potentially be good for is to add to an expendable distributed compute pool, one that you can afford to lose, but then you might as well also use other bottom-of-the-barrel untrustworthy providers for it too, e.g. OVH.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Post by locknitpicker »

largbae wrote: post #31

The migration sharing is admirable and useful teaching, thank you! I see the DigitalOcean vs Hetzner comparison as a tradeoff that we make in different domains all day long, similar to opening your DoorDash or UberEats instead of making your own dinner(and the cost ratio is similar too). I work in all 3 major clouds, on-prem, the works. I still head to the DigitalOcean console for bits and pieces type work or proof o…

> Sometimes you just want to click a button and the server or bucket or whatever is ready and here's the access info and it has sane defaults and if I need backups or whatnot it's just a checkbox. Your time is worth money too.

You're describing Hetzner Cloud, which has been like this for many years. At least 6.

Hetzner also offers Hetzner Cloud API, which allows us to not have to click any button and just have everything in IaC.

https://docs.hetzner.cloud/

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