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Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by f_r_d »

echelon wrote: post #11

Is Kdenlive owned/part of KDE? What's the story with KDE? How is KDE doing with respect to QT, given that QT is commercial (with LGPL licensing) and has passed through several ownership changes? Is QT actively being maintained, and is KDE able to incorporate (or better - steer) those changes? How are they doing with respect to the GTK/Gnome folks? (Did Gnome ever get over their issues? I tuned out around the time of…

KDE is a community (this year it turns 30!) and Kdenlive is part of it. Visit the website and read more about it.

Regarding you Qt question, there is the KDE Free Qt Foundation, more info: https://kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation/

I cannot tell you which DE to choose, I guess try them both and use what you like.

KDE distros that work well, try Arch (and derivatives like CachyOS), Fedora and there is also KDE Linux (but that is still alpha)

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by Pay08 »

echelon wrote: post #11

Is Kdenlive owned/part of KDE? What's the story with KDE? How is KDE doing with respect to QT, given that QT is commercial (with LGPL licensing) and has passed through several ownership changes? Is QT actively being maintained, and is KDE able to incorporate (or better - steer) those changes? How are they doing with respect to the GTK/Gnome folks? (Did Gnome ever get over their issues? I tuned out around the time of…

Kdenlive is part of KDE, yes.

I don't know what you mean by "story", but KDE is a collection of software more or less (emphasis on the less, at least compared to Gnome) interlinked with each other.

Qt specifically has the LGPL as a non-commercial license for open-source projects. This is part of a deal they made with KDE when it changed hands a while back.

Qt is being actively developed, but I don't believe KDE has any influence on it. They updated the entirety of their stack to Qt6 a year ago, they can definitely incorporate the changes.

KDE and GNOME generally don't care about each other. As for my personal opinion, Gnome's problems have only gotten worse in my experience, but perhaps in ways that don't matter to the average user.

Gnome if you like a MacOS-style UI, KDE Plasma if you prefer the Windows-style.

Generally, any distro will do. Rolling-release ones, or stable ones with a shorter update cycle (like Fedora) will get new features faster, but even Debian has KDE Plasma 6 nowadays.

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by annnoo »

Holy! When I moved over to Linux (2018ish) video and photo editing was still the thing, where I was still moving back to Windows or macOS But apparently I should really take another look at Kdenlive, looks like a lot of things have improved heavily, that it could hit the sweet spot between my love hate relationship with Resolve and the ease of use of Sony Vegas back in the day. Thanks for posting !

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by embedding-shape »

nathanmills wrote: post #17
embedding-shape wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great work responding to the only point I tried to make as weak as possible, and even provided an explanation for why it isn't "correct" in the first place...

Calling FOSS devs "competitors" is such a corporate-minded statement that completely misses the point. FOSS devs all work together to achieve a common goal and don't see other projects as competitors, they see them as friends.

I agree, that what I literally tried to qualify it... Goddamn some of you seem to write comments with the sole purpose to disagree with the smallest of things.

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by opan »

echelon wrote: post #11

Is Kdenlive owned/part of KDE? What's the story with KDE? How is KDE doing with respect to QT, given that QT is commercial (with LGPL licensing) and has passed through several ownership changes? Is QT actively being maintained, and is KDE able to incorporate (or better - steer) those changes? How are they doing with respect to the GTK/Gnome folks? (Did Gnome ever get over their issues? I tuned out around the time of…

Personally I use Sway. I wouldn't recommend GNOME. KDE seems okay from what I've used of it on SteamOS, and I have a few friends who seem to like KDE as well.

For a distro, maybe Arch or Fedora. Be aware with Fedora that it's more work than most distros to get proper media playback of certain codecs working, due to some sort of fear of patents. You have to replace a bunch of packages and it took me a while of messing around when I set up Fedora on an HTPC before I got the expected performance with various videos. I run Guix System on my personal machine, but it's pretty advanced and niche, so probably wouldn't recommend it to a new user.

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by Doohickey-d »

popcar2 wrote: post #3

Glad this project is still going, but have they ever fixed its stability and being able to change the framerate without breaking the whole project? Last I tried, trying to export the video with a different fps just broke all the keyframe timings...

Changing project framerate is apparently quite a hard problem, even DaVinci Resolve when you change it, warns you that you cannot change it for that project again.

Probably internally everything in a project is referenced to specific frame numbers, which would break if you changed the project framerate.

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by yellow_lead »

echelon wrote: post #11

Is Kdenlive owned/part of KDE? What's the story with KDE? How is KDE doing with respect to QT, given that QT is commercial (with LGPL licensing) and has passed through several ownership changes? Is QT actively being maintained, and is KDE able to incorporate (or better - steer) those changes? How are they doing with respect to the GTK/Gnome folks? (Did Gnome ever get over their issues? I tuned out around the time of…

I can't answer all of those but I personally prefer KDE to Gnome, and Fedora KDE or Kubuntu are the best. I like Fedora KDE.

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by BodyCulture »

visiohex wrote: post #14

Kdenlive hits the perfect sweet spot for me. It's much more capable than basic editors like iMovie, but doesn't have the overwhelming learning curve (or steep hardware requirements) of DaVinci Resolve. Like others have mentioned, pairing it with OBS for screen recording and Audacity for audio makes for an incredibly powerful, 100% FOSS media creation stack. It's amazing to see how far open-source video editing has co…

Be careful with any serious project, this software most certainly will crash and destroy your work. It crashes since many years and developers do not seem to care or are not able to understand how important stability for media creation software really is. Especially small and independent artists should absolutely avoid any software that introduces additional risk of project failure as one such crash scenario at an advanced project state has a high potential of total destruction.

Choose wisely! Resolve is available for very little money and not only a much safer choice, but you will also learn to use an industry standard tool and might be able to monetise that skill one day.

Kdenlive is a hobbiest project and is probably still ok for occasionally splitting a downloaded YouTube video or converting your OBS recordings, but never should you remotely think about using it for a project where you need to rely on your tools.

The developers are not warning you enough, instead still trying to market this software as kind of a serious competitor to pro software, so I do that as a service for the aspiring video editor, taking your downvotes proudly as the price honest people have to pay.

Yes, obviously I write from experience.

Re: State of Kdenlive

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Post by vladde »

has someone here moved from DaVinci Resolve to Kdenlive? how was that experience?

i just was a bit shocked to find out Resolve didn't support h.264 on their free tier on Linux, and i don't want to re-encode all my footage to AV1

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