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Re: Claude Design

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Lovable was a TailwindCSS recombinator, that’s it. Lately it is more and more ShadCN as well. TailwindCSS is a masterpiece but ironically doesn’t really get its fare share while “Build on top of TW” frameworks make money. TailwindCSS is the final evolution after all other frameworks always had its benefits but also massive limitations. BEM anyone? TW is really elegant a new paradigm in its purest sense and brilliantl…

Am I the only one who doesn't like Tailwind? The way it totally pollutes your html makes it seem like, while the benefits are impressive, they're not worth the collateral damage.

The idea of style being separate from content is great for something like a blog or a wiki article but when you're building an app each design needs completely different html and then it makes sense to couple. No naming. No hunting down styles. The html is your ccs. You get a formatter to sort the classes and it will compress away all the repetitive junk. Besides who looks at code much these days anyway.

Re: Claude Design

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For my agency this won't replace Figma or designers. It's just a really useful tool to express yourself and communicate intent. Before these tools, when a client wanted a specific section built, we'd spend hours hunting references across the web. The output always ended up feeling like a mesh of 2-3 sites, never fully unique. Then we'd burn more time explaining the intent to the client's designers and devs, usually w…

> It's not replacing designers. Except it is. Plenty of places will say this is all good enough and not hire, or even lay off, the UI/UX person. I've seen this firsthand.

Especially when the recession is around the corner. Thanks, Uncle Trump

Re: Claude Design

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post #654

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In those cases you’ve seen firsthand, who is actually using Claude design (or similar tools) to create the good enough design?

The important point is that 2 years ago these AI tools were like 20% percentile for UX designers, today it is as good as a junior or normal UI UX Developer, 2 years from now it will be in 90th percentile, etc

And then in 2 years after what, what will happen?

Re: Claude Design

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I reckon something like this has only been possible to develop because of how homogenous the internet has become in terms of design ever since the glass effect and drop-shadows took over in Web 2.0 and Twitter Bootstrap entered the scene. You'll get a competent UI with little effort but nothing truly unique or mind-blowing. Impressive technology, but that old skool artisanal weirdness of yore only becomes more valuab…

> You'll get a competent UI with little effort but nothing truly unique or mind-blowing. Which is exactly what I want. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a competent UI? Why do people celebrate consistency and uniformity in desktop apps, wanting to crucify developers for not following platform idioms and guidelines... and then suddenly want things that are "truly unique" or "mind-blowing" or "artisanal weirdn…

Are these ugly and hard to use website made by people who did want to be unique ?

Re: Claude Design

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post #256

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I remember when people would vigorously complain that Toolkit X was simply unsuitable for any task because it did not conform to the operating system's standard visual appearance. Now I struggle to even define what an "operating system's standard visual appearance" is. Apple's still the best but not what they used to be on that front even so.

I don't remember people complaining about Winamp being a non-standard UI, but if it were slow then there'd be tons of complaints - and many of the "fancy" UIs were terribly slow (or the programs were, hard for a user to tell the difference).

That is in large part because there was no uncanny valley, so to speak. Where it was different, it was different with a purpose and was intentional about it. Where there was no purpose, like in secondary menus, it still used native widgets like users expected.

The parent is talking about toolkits like Swing where things looked[1] almost, sort of, but not quite like the native system. That wanted to be native, but for technical reasons fell short. These are what many considered to be completely unfit for use. Whereas today, designers wouldn't think twice about applying the same kind of almost-native-but-not-quite theme to match their arbitrary whims and think they are doing the world a service by doing so, the UI conventions (to the extent that there remains any) of the host system be damned.

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Gui-widg...

Re: Claude Design

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I'm curious, is there anything out there that will get you the 80% of logo work? Claude opus always came closest to me as a non-designer, but it was always still something far from usable.

Haven’t found it yet. The component parts seems to be close. Opus is much better at drawing SVG than it used to be.

Get the draft using pixel generators and convert the end result with svgai.org.

Re: Claude Design

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McDonalds. Homogenous everywhere in the world. US, Italy, Japan, Brazil, same stuff. Good pizza in Italy, goos ramen in Japan, grilled Picanha in Brazil, that's why you go there and want it different/original. But in software UI this is often overdone. I want the pizzazz in my audio software in what it produces , not in how the UI looks like.

McDonald's is extremely different around the world. Different menu, different price.

I second that. There is a mile difference between the sorry excuse of a burger that’s called Big Tasty and McCrispy in the Netherlands versus the already way better proportioned and fresher one you get in Germany, up to the better ones in Italy.

Besides the bun, it is noticeable in every part. The amounts and quality of the sauce, vegetables, and meat. And finally how the burger is presented.

So if this difference can occur within 1000km of each other in the same continent, I fully accept that it is even more varied in the whole world.

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