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Re: Claude Design

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Post by switchbak »

eric_cc wrote: post #319
pilgrim0 wrote: post #285

On Notes on the Synthesis of Form, Alexander defines design as the rationalization of the forces that define a problem. You’ll won’t find a better definition. But people tend to think design is the synthesis and its results. This misunderstanding of the role of design and the designer is responsible for all the unfit designs we encounter on a daily basis. Anyone equipped with a synthesis tool and feeling empowered to…

> I feel sorry for anyone that will think using tools equals doing design, because of the truly marvelous human experiences that they’ll miss, and that could never be replaced by the shallow pride of empty achievement. What if you don’t give a shit about design and it’s a means to an end for a project that involves something different that you do care about?

Man so much of this thread is full of such high minded philosophizing, it's like we're debating wine instead of talking about interfaces for doing things.

Like, maybe I just want to make an interface to configure my homemade espresso dohickey, do I have to wear a turtleneck and read Christopher Alexander now? I just wanted a couple buttons and some sliders.

We don't all have to be experts in everything, some people just need a means to an end, and that's ok. I won't like the wave of slop that's coming, but the antidote certainly isn't this.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by jimbokun »

islewis wrote: post #185
Bilal_io wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The folks at Wall Street do not understand this does not replace Figma. Figma is targeted towards designers who create thoughtful design systems and cohesive UIs and who don't code, while this is targeted towards vibe coders who can't design. Two different circles that intersect to some level. But like you said, if anthropic adds the tools in Figma, only then they can can take customers from Figma IMO.

> Figma is targeted towards designers who create thoughtful design systems and cohesive UIs and who don't code, while this is targeted towards vibe coders who can't design. Two different circles that intersect to some level. this overlap has been widening incredibly quickly. lots of designers are now writing code with the help of cursor, claude code, etc. even if you believe "real designers" wont ever use this produc…

Will the designers vibe code coders out of a job before coders vibe design designers out if a job?

Re: Claude Design

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Post by bdangubic »

jimbokun wrote: post #432
islewis wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Figma is targeted towards designers who create thoughtful design systems and cohesive UIs and who don't code, while this is targeted towards vibe coders who can't design. Two different circles that intersect to some level. this overlap has been widening incredibly quickly. lots of designers are now writing code with the help of cursor, claude code, etc. even if you believe "real designers" wont ever use this produc…

Will the designers vibe code coders out of a job before coders vibe design designers out if a job?

Claude with "out of a job" coders and designers and carpenters and plumbers... :)

Re: Claude Design

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Post by camillomiller »

nightski wrote: post #316
bauerd wrote: post #309

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This is a really verbose way to say that using generative AI has a detrimental effect on the user because one deprives themselves of the learning experience.

Agreed on your take on the parent, although I have to say I feel that AI has had the opposite effect for me. It has only accelerated learning quite significantly. In fact not only is learning more effective/efficient, I have more time for it because I am not spending nearly as much time tracking down stupid issues.

Are you sure that is not the illusion of learning? If you don't know the domains, how can you know how much you now know? Especially consider that these models are all Dunning Kruger-inducing machines.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by [deleted] »

pilgrim0 wrote: post #285

On Notes on the Synthesis of Form, Alexander defines design as the rationalization of the forces that define a problem. You’ll won’t find a better definition. But people tend to think design is the synthesis and its results. This misunderstanding of the role of design and the designer is responsible for all the unfit designs we encounter on a daily basis. Anyone equipped with a synthesis tool and feeling empowered to…

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Re: Claude Design

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Post by camillomiller »

jtbayly wrote: post #357
bauerd wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a really verbose way to say that using generative AI has a detrimental effect on the user because one deprives themselves of the learning experience.

No. It says much more than that, because it applies to many other tools that aren't AI.

Well, you know what they say about our current attention spans. If it's not a slogan it's already too long!

Re: Claude Design

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Post by 4b11b4 »

bauerd wrote: post #309
pilgrim0 wrote: post #285

On Notes on the Synthesis of Form, Alexander defines design as the rationalization of the forces that define a problem. You’ll won’t find a better definition. But people tend to think design is the synthesis and its results. This misunderstanding of the role of design and the designer is responsible for all the unfit designs we encounter on a daily basis. Anyone equipped with a synthesis tool and feeling empowered to…

This is a really verbose way to say that using generative AI has a detrimental effect on the user because one deprives themselves of the learning experience.

Was thinking similarly... Without the friction, you're unable to explore the space, the space doesn't even exist at all... So it's not even clear where you're going from or where you'll arrive at.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by system2 »

CaptWillard wrote: post #324
nightski wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed on your take on the parent, although I have to say I feel that AI has had the opposite effect for me. It has only accelerated learning quite significantly. In fact not only is learning more effective/efficient, I have more time for it because I am not spending nearly as much time tracking down stupid issues.

Big difference between gaining knowledge and building/maintaining cognitive skills.

It is better than doomscrolling on Instagram for hours like the new generations. At least the brain is active, creating ideas or reading some text nonstop to keep itself active.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by stronglikedan »

nightski wrote: post #316
bauerd wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a really verbose way to say that using generative AI has a detrimental effect on the user because one deprives themselves of the learning experience.

Agreed on your take on the parent, although I have to say I feel that AI has had the opposite effect for me. It has only accelerated learning quite significantly. In fact not only is learning more effective/efficient, I have more time for it because I am not spending nearly as much time tracking down stupid issues.

Sounds like you're talking about research AI and not generative AI. You can't learn artistic/creative techniques when you're not practicing those techniques. You can have a vision, but the AI will execute that vision, and you only get the end result without learning the techniques used to execute it.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by matchagaucho »

pilgrim0 wrote: post #285

On Notes on the Synthesis of Form, Alexander defines design as the rationalization of the forces that define a problem. You’ll won’t find a better definition. But people tend to think design is the synthesis and its results. This misunderstanding of the role of design and the designer is responsible for all the unfit designs we encounter on a daily basis. Anyone equipped with a synthesis tool and feeling empowered to…

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