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Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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Great article, but in your Craigslist section, you could mention how AirBnB used Craigslist to get their first houses listed http://davegooden.com/2011/05/how-airbnb-became-a-billion-do...

I read about this in the past, and I think it's a really interesting conversation. Would you consider this spam?

Personally I lean towards no. Yes, you are emailing a stranger, but in a relevant way and presumably only one time.

Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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I think SlideShare is one of the most underutilized tools out there. It's a great way to break up a lot of information (people enjoy clicking through) and they have a vibrant community. I post things up there and routinely get tens of thousands of highly relevant views.

Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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Great article, but in your Craigslist section, you could mention how AirBnB used Craigslist to get their first houses listed http://davegooden.com/2011/05/how-airbnb-became-a-billion-do...

I read about this in the past, and I think it's a really interesting conversation. Would you consider this spam? Personally I lean towards no. Yes, you are emailing a stranger, but in a relevant way and presumably only one time.

Every craigslist post defaults to "You are not allowed to email me about related services." It's not up to them to try and enrich my life with their new services I didn't ask to hear about.

It's blatant spam. But blatant spam and lawbreaking resulting in money hats is apparently okay around here. (It's not shady or illegal -- it's hustling and hacking the system.)

Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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post #2

Great article, but in your Craigslist section, you could mention how AirBnB used Craigslist to get their first houses listed http://davegooden.com/2011/05/how-airbnb-became-a-billion-do...

I read about this in the past, and I think it's a really interesting conversation. Would you consider this spam? Personally I lean towards no. Yes, you are emailing a stranger, but in a relevant way and presumably only one time.

I think as long as you are providing valuable and relevant information to the user, that it is fine. In this case, AirBnB connected people who were looking for renters, to an excellent service that furthered their goal.

Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read about this in the past, and I think it's a really interesting conversation. Would you consider this spam? Personally I lean towards no. Yes, you are emailing a stranger, but in a relevant way and presumably only one time.

Every craigslist post defaults to "You are not allowed to email me about related services." It's not up to them to try and enrich my life with their new services I didn't ask to hear about. It's blatant spam. But blatant spam and lawbreaking resulting in money hats is apparently okay around here. (It's not shady or illegal -- it's hustling and hacking the system. )

I don't see the harm in them trying to help wanting people connect with a useful service that solves their needs.

Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every craigslist post defaults to "You are not allowed to email me about related services." It's not up to them to try and enrich my life with their new services I didn't ask to hear about. It's blatant spam. But blatant spam and lawbreaking resulting in money hats is apparently okay around here. (It's not shady or illegal -- it's hustling and hacking the system. )

I don't see the harm in them trying to help wanting people connect with a useful service that solves their needs.

The harm is you are you and you are not them. They are them and no matter how much we think we can make their lives better, they are busy and don't want to hear it.

The problem is when they are kinda dumb (most of the time?) and the targed spam or leadgen job postings actually work.

"Job in your area paying $175k/year for your exact experience!" -- but when you inquire, it never exists. Conveniently they happen to have similar jobs with compensation structures consisting of wobbly jello.

Read the classics: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/01/permission-m...

Re: Places to Start Acquiring Users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read about this in the past, and I think it's a really interesting conversation. Would you consider this spam? Personally I lean towards no. Yes, you are emailing a stranger, but in a relevant way and presumably only one time.

Every craigslist post defaults to "You are not allowed to email me about related services." It's not up to them to try and enrich my life with their new services I didn't ask to hear about. It's blatant spam. But blatant spam and lawbreaking resulting in money hats is apparently okay around here. (It's not shady or illegal -- it's hustling and hacking the system. )

It's a very fair point, and I think it's good to always err on the side of "not being shady".

Just to play devil's advocate, many companies would never have broken through the clutter if they didn't break a few rules to be seen at first. This includes great companies many of use use every day (like AirBnB). Reddit was forced to create fake accounts and pose fake conversations to get started. Google certainly was breaking some rules when they began scraping/indexing the entire web (i realize this is an oversimplification).

The ones that are truly garbage disappear when they start breaking rules. They piss people off. The ones who do it right, and offer something valuable, rise up.

Again that is just playing devil's advocate. I don't think it's black and white, and I think it's a really interesting conversation

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