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The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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Neither Ted Kaczynski nor Senator McCarthy were wrong, even if we can criticize their ways and means.

Crazy that someone would use this pseudonym while at the same time saying that all society's problems are caused by socialist and Communist conspiracy.

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Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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Yeah, I think about this a lot. Those days of grinding on some grad school maths homework until insight. Figuring out how to configure and recompile the Linux kernel to get a sound card driver working, hitting roadblocks, eventually succeeding. Without AI on a gnarly problem: grind grind grind, try different thing, some things work, some things don't, step back, try another approach, hit a wall, try again. This effor…

What strikes me is that AI can also be the best teacher in the world: your Makefile is not working, you ask the LLM what's wrong, you learn something new about the syntax, you ask for more details, you learn more, you ask about other Makefile syntax gotchas, etc. This is the most efficient deliberate practice possible: you can learn in minutes what would take hours of Googling, tinkering and scouring docs. You have a…

> you ask the LLM what's wrong, you learn something new about the syntax

So if you have no LLM to ask, can you figure out on your own what is wrong? Just by reading documentation?

That's also an important skill to have.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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> Physical robustness. Strength, perhaps brutality. Competence in physical tasks. Honesty. Parentage. Birth order (see primogeniture.) Those matter in per-technological societies, and they matter in failed societies now. Those are perhaps humanity's core values. This is really bleak to me. We can do better than primogeniture, and of course the gender discrimination that goes along with it. You might as well write tha…

Although primogeniture has been discriminatory for basically the entire time it's existed, the discrimination isn't inherent. It's an implementation detail. Modern British Royal succession now uses absolute, gender-neutral primogeniture since 2013. In fact, there are few things less discriminatory than a random birth order. You may as well be assigned a random number at birth, and the lower your number, the more you'…

Rather than being distracted by whether primogeniture specifically is/was discriminatory, we should remember that "what was valued" in the societies Animats discussed very much included being male.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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Primogeniture in any form is discriminatory precisely since birth order is an immutable, permanent, unchosen characteristic assigned randomly at birth, just like race or sex.

Primogeniture makes sense in a world where odds that you arrive at the adult age are rather low, due to the high risk of death from illness and injuries. The oldest child is the most likely to survive. It is a rational and fair rule in such context.

Many discriminatory policies could be considered rational. It is rational for jobs to discriminate against handicapped people who require extra affordances to be able to do the same job (for example, wheelchair ramps).

“Fair” is a much trickier beast! My favorite approach to conceptualizing fairness is Rawls’ veil of ignorance: if you were going to be placed as a random member of society, rather than your current position, and you would still support a policy given this change, then the policy is fair. Knowing that, beyond the veil of ignorance, I may be a paraplegic, would I still support dismantling the ADA’s wheelchair accessibility requirements?

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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I think he is to pesimistic, a tool is a tool and if AI progresses without hitting a ceilling, i will see a potential future of a society which might explore space. Musks SpaceX Keynote was ridiculous, don't get me wrong, but we will be able to see AI progress in the next 5 years which will give us some kind of gut feeling were the journey can go. Also AI solves another problem: Compute. It was clear that we want som…

Actually, this AI Compute is not very useful for physics, protein folding or many other high performance computing. The problem is that the connectivity required for much of AI is very different than that required for classic HPC (more emphasis on bandwidth, less on super low latency small payload remote memory operations) and the numeric emphasis is very different (lots of mixed resolution and lots of ridiculously s…

Alphafold (protein folding) was trained on Googles TPUs which are not GPUs true but very close.

Flow simulation also happens on GPUs and not CPUs though.

El Capitan is the top 1 on top 500 and the flops ratio between CPU and GPU is nearly 1 to 100.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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I love it when Americans take the moral high ground

Funny that's how I feel when Europeans lecture about wars and imperialism

Of all the times to complain about Europeans complaining about wars, maybe now is not the time?

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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If you use coding tools too much, you lose the ability to think long-term since you become entirely dependent on the tool. If you don't use them, you risk falling behind everyone else. so the boundary is blurry... I'm not sure what to do

Bit of both I think; spend time writing code on your own, use coding tools at work if they encourage / pay for it.

I think we'll settle into a new norm over the next few years, but the role of software engineer will change though. Ultimately, always remember (and remind your boss) that you are in charge and, more importantly, responsible.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

#689

If you use coding tools too much, you lose the ability to think long-term since you become entirely dependent on the tool. If you don't use them, you risk falling behind everyone else. so the boundary is blurry... I'm not sure what to do

Just spend 30 minutes a day without using them. Think of it like practicing an instrument.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Where do we go from here?

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The amusing thing and perhaps the reason I've embraced it as my username, is that people around here are bringing it to life in a certain way. It may not prove to be effective or as momentous as the fictional one, but it began when I saw stickers slapped onto utility poles that read: DEATH TO CLANKERS BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW And I stopped to read them (because they were posted in a neighborhood where my people's cultural…

That is funny. I don't know. I always kind of cringe when I hear the term clankers. I know people often aren't serious but it seems like maybe we shouldn't be trying to invent new slurs.

Whatever our other differences, I am forced both by honesty and by decency to grant that you are absolutely correct on this score.
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