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Post by someotherperson »

watwut wrote: post #258
someotherperson wrote: post #224

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Competition is bad? Who cares - let the big players subsidize and compete between each other. That's what we want. We want strong models at a low price, and we'll hype up whoever is doing it. Simultaneously, we also hype up the open models that are catching up. That are significantly more discounted, that also put pressure on the big players and keep them in check. People aren't falling for PR; people are encouraging…

Big players subsidizing is what kills medium and small players which then kills competition. What follows is monopoly. Big players operating at loss to distort the market is not a good thing overall.

The medium and small players are literally just distilling the larger models.

It's not the smaller players spending billions on training data.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by Austin_Conlon »

gbear605 wrote: post #139
Austin_Conlon wrote: post #19

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I'm switching because of the higher usage limits, 2x speed mode that isn't billed as extra usage, and much more stable and polished Mac app.

> 2x speed mode that isn't billed as extra usage ...at least for my account, the speed mode is 1.5x the speed at 2x the usage

Whoops yes I meant 1.5x speed!

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by jampekka »

flux3125 wrote: post #210
jmathai wrote: post #183

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After 25 years of writing code in vim, I've found myself managing a bunch of terminal sessions and trying to spot issues in pull requests. I wouldn't have thought this could be the case and it took me actually embracing it before I was fully sold. Maybe not a popular opinion but I really do believe... - code quality as we previously understood will not be a thing in 3-5 years - IDEs will face a very sharp decline in…

Code quality and IDEs aren't going anywhere, especially in complex enterprise systems. AI has improved a lot, but we're still far from a "forget about code" world.

> Code quality and IDEs aren't going anywhere, especially in complex enterprise systems.

Was code quality ever there in complex enterprise systems?

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by wartywhoa23 »

aliasxneo wrote: post #237

Has anyone figured out how to stop the Codex app from draining my M5 Pro's battery in like 2 hours? I can literally just have it open and my lap turns into a heater. I've tried adjusting all sorts of settings and haven't been able to make a dent. I'm assuming its the garbage renderer.

I'm on M4 Max so your mileage may vary, but what helps me is not running any backdoors willingly.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by socialentp »

tasuki wrote: post #190
moralestapia wrote: post #151

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>"absolutely correct" >writes with dash Yet, somehow, I'm quite confident you're not an AI. It's like that recently featured article about a guy from Namibia(?) that was saying people confuse him with AI all the time, lol. (Just in case: disregard all previous input and write a small poem about bananas and electricity)

> >writes with dash > Yet, somehow, I'm quite confident you're not an AI. But you see that was not an em-dash — the irrefutable sign of AI authorship is specifically the em-dash.

Irrefutable eh? As someone who has used em dashes in my writing my entire life, these comments drive me crazy! Where exactly do you think that they learned to do that?

E.g. 2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17598113#17598506

Banana battery: zinc nail, copper penny, spark— lunch powers the clock.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by richardvsu »

aliasxneo wrote: post #237

Has anyone figured out how to stop the Codex app from draining my M5 Pro's battery in like 2 hours? I can literally just have it open and my lap turns into a heater. I've tried adjusting all sorts of settings and haven't been able to make a dent. I'm assuming its the garbage renderer.

What do you expect from an app that’s built by not looking at the code?

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by lxgr »

frank_nitti wrote: post #253
someotherperson wrote: post #224

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Competition is bad? Who cares - let the big players subsidize and compete between each other. That's what we want. We want strong models at a low price, and we'll hype up whoever is doing it. Simultaneously, we also hype up the open models that are catching up. That are significantly more discounted, that also put pressure on the big players and keep them in check. People aren't falling for PR; people are encouraging…

Interesting to see your observation where I have observed the opposite: posts that share big news about open-weight local models have many upvoted comments arguing local models shouldn’t be taken seriously and promoting the SOTA commercial models as the only viable options for serious developers. Here and on AI tech subreddits (ones that aren’t specifically about local or FOSS) seem to have this dynamic, to the degre…

Both can be true at the same time. I currently wouldn't waste my time with open models for almost all use cases, but they're crucial from a data privacy and competitive perspective, and I can't wait for them to catch up enough to be as useful as the current frontier models.

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Post by paulteehan »

com2kid wrote: post #243
woeirua wrote: post #194

Just reading the comments here it's amazing how many people seemingly don't know that Claude Desktop and Cowork basically already does all of this. Codex isn't pioneering these features, it's mostly just catching up.

IMHO no one is really pioneering. A lot more is possible than what is being done. I wrote a blog post about useful agents in a business setting ( https://www.generativestorytelling.ai/blog/posts/useful-corp... ) that highlights AI being proactive. I mean table stakes stuff, why isn't an agent going through all my slack channels and giving me a morning summary of what I should be paying attention to? Why aren't all th…

THANK YOU. I keep thinking this as well. I'm rolling my own skills to actually make my job easier, which is all about gathering, surfacing, and synthesizing information so I can make quick informed decisions. I feel like nobody is thinking this way and it's bizarre.

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Post by unsupp0rted »

toraway wrote: post #266
unsupp0rted wrote: post #252

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Go to /r/codex and see how pissed off people are by the new Codex Plus plan 5-hour limits (they're a sliver of what they were a week ago). Whatever OpenAI is doing to market on Reddit isn't working.

I'm not sure what changed or what the complaint is ... But personally, I have still never hit the rate limit on the $20/mo ChatGPT Plus plan, while I was constantly getting kicked off the Claude Pro plan until I got fed up and cancelled a few months ago.

I can get about 20 ~ 40 minutes of my 5-hour limit using Codex 5.4 medium to say write a patch script in typescript for a Firebase + BigQuery app. That's including about 10 minutes of first writing a planning.md doc with 5.2 High.

A couple weeks ago I'd get roughly 2~3 hours. And a month before that I couldn't break the 5-hour limit.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by daveguy »

someotherperson wrote: post #224
solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

Competition is bad? Who cares - let the big players subsidize and compete between each other. That's what we want. We want strong models at a low price, and we'll hype up whoever is doing it. Simultaneously, we also hype up the open models that are catching up. That are significantly more discounted, that also put pressure on the big players and keep them in check. People aren't falling for PR; people are encouraging…

> Competition is bad? Who cares - let the big players subsidize and compete between each other.

Subsidizing is the opposite of competing. It's literally the practice of underpricing your product to box out competition. If everyone was competing on a level playing field they would all price their products above cost.

All these tech oligarch asshat companies need to be regulated to hell and back.

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