I will not give a copy of my identification to any tech platform or operating system provider, full stop. I will stop using technology before I compromise on this. Techbros and politicians, please take note.
OK, Blank Reg. You were right all along.
US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed
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Heritage foundation? Lol give me a break.
From Project 2025[0], published by the Heritage Foundation: Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. [0] https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...
Check out https://agelesslinux.org/lobbyists.html
They're specially trying to get people to believe this is a right wing thing. Effective strategy as we can see by the comments.
> This matters because it preempts the easiest dismissal: that age verification mandates are a right-wing culture war project. They are not.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could stop adult content from being shown to minors; it would just take effort on their part to do so, so why not shift the effort on to everyone else?
>> They could stop adult content from being shown to minors; it would just take effort on their part to do so If you voluntarily sensor content, you might be in danger of being held responsible for various things since you control what people see. Phone companies in the US are "common carriers" which means they just connect people, but are not responsible for what people do over the phone (plotting crime or whatever)…
Section 230 allows for as much censoring as you want, you are not liable for user generated content as an interactive computer service provider if you censor or don't.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
So how would you recommend ensuring only citizens vote and only do so a max of once per election?
What we do now works fine. Numerous studies, including by people that had a strong interest in wanting to find problems, have found that the amount of ineligible voters that slip through is insignificant. Voter registration records are generally public and are scrutinized by partisan organizations that want to try to disqualify voters that they think will vote for a different party. The voter ID laws Republicans are…
As someone who would vote for voter ID, I would also vote just as fast to provide tax payer funded help so any US citizen can vote, regardless of financial situation.
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
All Internet users will be verified. No going online without a government issued id. It's not about verifying the age.
I hate to say it and it's not the future we all wanted, but as long as social media can be weaponized by foreign powers, the only solution is verifying internet users. It's inevitable.
I doubt it's the only option, just one with benefits to those with interest to censor and control others. I imagine some more tweaks in the algorithms could do quite a bit.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is precedent that indicates otherwise, as this is a clear First Amendment violation. Requiring commercial services to adhere to certain guidelines is constitutional, even though the Texas law is a bad one and I think a different court may have slapped down the law. Mandating speech (code is speech) is clearly not, especially for noncommercial projects. I think the key would be getting the right person to explai…
I kind of doubt that most judges are going to agree with a "code is speech" argument. I think it's more likely that the courts view code as a mechanism, and so this is more like requiring cars to have airbags. Though this does bring to fore the issue of enforcement. Nobody can stop you from building a custom car which has no airbags. Where enforcement happens is when you try to get it registered (thus making it legal…
Even if code is mechanism and not speech, I'd hope being forced to tell anyone you ever interacted with online your age would be compelled speech..
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
From Project 2025[0], published by the Heritage Foundation: Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. [0] https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...
Check out https://agelesslinux.org/lobbyists.html They're specially trying to get people to believe this is a right wing thing. Effective strategy as we can see by the comments. > This matters because it preempts the easiest dismissal: that age verification mandates are a right-wing culture war project. They are not.
Are you claiming that Project 2025[0] isn't a right wing thing?
If, by you, the Heritage Foundation isn't right wing then what would be?
That's not a rhetorical question.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why waste the time generating slop like this?
I spent a lot of time reading the books on which these perspectives are based. You probably won't read the books. So I hope that, by writing about reality here on HN, I can expose you to some facts and ideas that you're too complacent to bother investigating, yourself.
The parent was saying that AI wrote that, not you.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
From Project 2025[0], published by the Heritage Foundation: Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. [0] https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...
Check out https://agelesslinux.org/lobbyists.html They're specially trying to get people to believe this is a right wing thing. Effective strategy as we can see by the comments. > This matters because it preempts the easiest dismissal: that age verification mandates are a right-wing culture war project. They are not.
Interestingly, I saw this linked to on Mastodon just now and immediately thought of you.
Check it[0] out. I think you'll find it illuminating.
[0] https://www.techdirt.com/2026/04/16/the-right-wing-origins-a...
Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed
#240A 17 year old can sign up to murder brown people in other countries but can't use Facebook