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Re: The paper computer

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> we moved out to suburbs because Because it was a profit making venture for car companies. Suburbs are horrifically inefficient, they survive by the twisted "communism" of cannibalizing the dense urban tax bases to support the sprawling, expensive to service and maintain, isolating flatlands.

Not so fast: I would say that the move to suburbs was initially driven by a thirst for homeownership with luxurious lawns, coupled with electric streetcars and other rail-based transport. It was only later that the almighty combustion engine and tire companies forcibly replaced streetcars with buses and trucks, that cars began their hegemonic domination of suburbia. The National Highway System decrees didn't hurt, ei…

It also happened during a period where cities were polluted, noisy, and the middle-class housing was largely cramped tenements. Basically all of this has been/is being mitigated these days. City-center housing now looks more like luxury loft living than tenements (though this gives us a big problem with ‘missing middle’ housing where there’s very little housing available that is suitable for families where everything is decrepit slums or luxury 1 and 2 bedroom condos). Pollution has been largely mitigated with catalytic converters and, now, EVs. And electrification helps deal with noise pollution as well through getting rid of engine noise (especially for motorized appliances like leaf-blowers).

Meanwhile, traffic and the stigma around drunk driving (which wasn’t nearly as strong or strictly enforced before the 90s), have quickly taken much of the bloom off the rose of car-dependent lifestyles. I predict the growth of micromobility options will continue to make cities even more attractive as well by improving coverage for areas where transit can’t go and generally improve the throughput of city streets and reduce the space needed for parking cars for people who live within “not-quite walking but feels silly to drive” distance.

The big gap in the US at least is simply a lack of cities! Everything is still concentrated in a handful of legacy urban centers that survived the waves of “urban renewal” and it’s simply too expensive to house all the people who want to live there without turning them into Hong Kong sized megalopolises, which starts to introduce new problems from overwhelming density. “Urban” development patterns need to expand out to more of the country to take demand pressure off the 5 or 6 American cities with decent mass transit.

Re: The paper computer

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Paper Computing (great name!) is something I've been thinking about a lot to help my kids benefit from tech without exposing them to the brain melting addiction of screens. I sacrificed a few crazy nights of sleep to try to build a Paper Computer Agent prototype for a recent Gemini hackathon (only to disappointingly have submission issues right before the actual deadline) which my kids loved and keep asking me to set…

this is beautiful

Re: The paper computer

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The author is basically advocating that they want to be an executive with a secretary, but they want the secretary to be AI. I don't use secretary in a pejorative sense, just meaning that the author seems to want someone/something that does simple tasks but lets them make decisions, as opposed to an executive assistant that has a little more self-agency to do things on their own. They just want OpenClaw with printing…

Jesse Genet has been posting some cool use cases of OpenClaw for homeschooling that are somewhat along these lines. Using the assistant to inventory the physical manipulables, the curriculum pages, and how they intersect. Printing pages automatically for certain lessons. Updating e-ink screens with other lessons.

Re: The paper computer

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I will say scanners are somewhat unergonomic, but if you had a high enough definition camera, you could photograph the document in its "natural environment". Granted, it's harder to get an evenly lit picture that way, but I think it's a nicer interface.

All of my document "scanning" for the last—god, maybe 15 years?—has been with a phone camera. Before everyone just started using Docusign anyway, I'd bought houses with a phone "scanner". LOL. I don't think I started with it, but for a very long time I've had an app called TinyScanner that's good-enough at edge detection, can de-noise or make a document entirely black & white, and can glue multiple pages together int…

I've been using Genius Scan for ~15 years and it also lets you send faxes (via credits you buy). My phone works for 99% of my use cases.

Re: The paper computer

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There is something incredibly valuable about forcing yourself to trace execution logic on physical paper. It builds a mental model of state changes and memory that you just don't fully develop when a modern IDE's debugger is doing all the heavy lifting for you.

Forth and Lisp, easier with S9 than Guile with tons of modules where some Guile libs overlap with SRFI (global standards for every Scheme to follow). You can almost trace Lisp functions by hand.

Ditto with Forth dumping the memory, creating literal structures for numbers and whatnot. Also, the 'see' command among dumping literal memory bytes.

Being both a REPL helps a lot. But Forth gets into a lower level than S9 itself.

Re: The paper computer

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I've been thinking about this too. I think it would be cool if you could put the interface in a pen, somehow. Like embed a tiny projector and camera in a pen. Then, if you want to read your emails, you can project them on a surface. If you want to reply, you write with the pen, then point the camera at it.

Re: The paper computer

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>If nothing else I'd like it if operating systems and web browsers helped me be less distracted and frenetic, instead of encouraging exactly that multi-tasking freneticism. When I opened my phone or computer, it'd be nice if it was constrained to operate in a mode purpose-built for whatever task I intended to use it for.

I've often had this though. The short answer is that it isn't yours.

As a joke I proposed a sausage shaped phone that vibrates. That way if you happen to need or want a vibrator you have it in your hand already. It sounds stupid I know but phones are porn mags and slot machines too. For those with a gambling problem the usability of a work device that is also a casino should probably be expressed as a negative score. When I first held a smart phone I asked how to use it as an mp3 player. Today it still can't compete with a cheap mp3 player.

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Long ago I read a story about a family that published and printed a weekly newspaper [sick] just for the 5 of them. It had articles looking back on the previous week and ones about things scheduled for this week. Members of the family would submit articles and the mum stitched everything together into the print.

I think with llm we can print a daily report? You can scan it too but you have to boot up a computer and launch applications which defeats the point.

Maybe the trick is to have big buttons that connect a bootable medium (with a single purpous OS) and start the computer.

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