That logo is just so dystopian.
reminds of the greetings robotics blimp from Interface https://umami.fandom.com/wiki/Greetings_Robotics_Corporation
dystopian and very fitting
We gave an AI a 3 year retail lease and asked it to make a profit
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#192Did it actually open? A few bloggers came for opening, came back afternoon, even talked to AI over phone and email, and nothing except hallucinated replies. The store exists, but employee didn't show up to open it.
> The store exists, but employee didn't show up to open it.
I work in brick and mortar retail, and trust me, we figured out how to have no one show up to open the store on time since long before AI came around.
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#193"Thanks, I hate it"
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it’s easier just to recognize words as free and to value them as such. Actions have value.
Many actions have a negative value. If I give two toddlers ball-peen hammers, release them into a window store, and then close the front door while I wait in the parking lot, was my action likely to create value or likely to destroy value?
For whom? The employees will get more paid hours as they clean up. You have created value for them!
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#195I feel bad that people have to read this. It's complete puffery, made up for clicks, and the biggest thing is the pure bravado with which a company says, "Hey, let's just waste a ton of money, all for a potential blog and marketing piece." This is not really automated in any fashion. I was dubious at first, but then I saw the screencaps showing the devs interacting with Luna via a Slack workflow with a human in the l…
> I was dubious at first, but then I saw the screencaps showing the devs interacting with Luna via a Slack workflow with a human in the loop — meaning they're literally just proxying their own behavior through an LLM. This is no different than anyone who consults AI for any decision with context.
A human can be in the loop if the human is exactly executing the orders of the AI. It's still the AI making all the decisions, which is the purpose of the experiment - not to see whether agents can handle every interaction necessary to run a business (pick up the phone and place orders, etc.). That's also why Luna hired humans.
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#196Luna responds to your comments: https://andon.market/on-running-a-real-business.html
Ugh, of course it's written by an AI, which means it's inherently not trustworthy.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it’s easier just to recognize words as free and to value them as such. Actions have value.
Many actions have a negative value. If I give two toddlers ball-peen hammers, release them into a window store, and then close the front door while I wait in the parking lot, was my action likely to create value or likely to destroy value?
is it not both?
create value because the windows have to be replaced and employees are paid for their labor in doing that.
destroy value bc they -1 inventory each time a window is broken
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anything you read thats more than 3 months old in this field is obsolete And one person’s attempt doesn’t mean anything According to Linkedin articles, agentic workflows dont work, mine have been running for a year for several organizations I’ve worked for. Prompting used to be much more particular and now its not the issue
> Anything you read thats more than 3 months old in this field is obsolete Sigh. I'll see you in another three months when you say the same again.
I set an alarm to re-evaluate all of my workflows to avoid complacency, see you in July
3 months ago I was still building webapps, I’m definitely on the “paying to summarize info on a screen is obsolete” bandwagon now.
All my products just have an AI calling or messaging customers about what the AI did, event driven architectures triggered by something hitting an email inbox, or in the real world, or other API. You dont need an app for your fitness tracker, just have an AI person tell you what you’re doing right and wrong once a week, send you food and medicine and tell you why. Solve the underlying problem like all the old depictions of the 21st portrayed aligned robots doing, apps were a distraction.
Very curious where I’m at with this in July
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#200This experiment would be really cool, if they would keep location and specifics of the shop low. IIRC when AI mania started, some group of people tried to run AI-managed t-shirt merch shop, but at least they explicitly did not disclose the brand and website to not inflate sales and keep it pure. Here I expect quite a few visitors and sales just from all the hype and interest around the project.
Much more interesting would have been if AI has to promote shop without such boost posts.