So this is only for organizations and not for individuals? The Get Started button goes to a form where it wants to know how they can help your organization. I didn’t see any other link to the source code or documentation. If whoever created this site sees this comment, please clear up the above questions and observations.
Mozilla Thunderbolt
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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#202For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…
Firefox is pretty cool. Use it every day. Blocks ads Multi account containers Dev tools very good I never notice that it is in any way slow, except for those sites that need infinity cpu on any browser, like jira. What specifically is the issue? To my mind it quietly just gets on with things.
In contrast, the Multi-Account Containers system is the primary reason I avoid Firefox.
While it is meant to be an alternative to Chrome's profile switching, it is more a workaround than a complete replacement. I need entirely different sets of extensions for personal, work, and school environments, something containers can't do.
Firefox's actual profile support is beyond terrible. To launch a separate instance, Firefox requires many more clicks than Chrome, all within a Windows-2000-style UI. Not to mention that there are weird glitches in their implementation.
Firefox is not usable for me until they actually spend time improving their multiple profile support.
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#203There's an architecture diagram here: https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbolt/blob/main/docs/ar... It seems like all the model inference is external APIs? So why is the marketing claiming "Self-host on your infrastructure or let us help you deploy. Your data never leaves your control."
Could those external APIs point to locally hosted models?
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a lot of good use-cases of Web usb, you can't just cut everything which might have privacy aspects otherwise the browsers wouldn't have canvas or even gpu rendering.
What are those use cases? It seems like a giant hole punched all the way from a tab's sandbox through the process boundary and out to the kernel... Yes, gpu rendering is a great example of the same problem. Canvas at least has some intervening layers depending on implementation.
Almost all of the gui software for programming keyboards with QMK uses webusb or webhid, so you either have to use a chromium based browser or an electron app that is basically just a wrapper for chromium.
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#205For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…
Have you donated to the Mozilla Foundation so they can ditch financial ties with Google?
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
These two goals: > ... please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. > Ditching any direct financial ties to Google or any other browser vendor is both important and necessary... are inherently contradictory. If you do not want Mozilla to have revenue from search vendors that also have browsers, it has to come from somewhere else. Or are you…
There are plenty ways to fund digital commons, including people volunteering their time.
I don't think volunteering is going to cut it. Big orgs have big money and public commons are just targets to be controlled exploited.
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#207So this is only for organizations and not for individuals? The Get Started button goes to a form where it wants to know how they can help your organization. I didn’t see any other link to the source code or documentation. If whoever created this site sees this comment, please clear up the above questions and observations.
I believe they're anticipating self-hosters to deploy directly from their Github documentation.
The FAQs in Github also imply that a hosted deployment for single users is on their roadmap, but not prioritized. - https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbolt/blob/main/docs/fa...
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
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Here are a couple: 1. The inability to set a specific page for new tabs to open on. That is ridiculous. 2. The mobile version sucks, specifically because bookmarks are buried under an absurd number of menu levels. And they're also broken up (without user approval or any way to stop it) into "mobile" and "desktop" bookmarks. WHY? The entire point of syncing is to have them all the same. I want to like Firefox. I went…
> The inability to set a specific page for new tabs to open on. That is ridiculous. I've been using the "New Tab Override" extension for almost a decade at this point. Sure, it would probably make sense to have as a baseline feature, but I installed it so long ago and it's continued working the whole time that it's not really something I think about anymore.
New Tab Homepage is another alternative
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
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Firefox is pretty cool. Use it every day. Blocks ads Multi account containers Dev tools very good I never notice that it is in any way slow, except for those sites that need infinity cpu on any browser, like jira. What specifically is the issue? To my mind it quietly just gets on with things.
It is very cool! I'd go as far to say it's a great browser in fact. I simply want it to exist and be such in perpetuity and lead by example like it has in the past. I see it as a follower instead of a leader these days, largely to Google, but also Safari and to some degree Edge (by simply stealing the blink renderer) The Mozilla org continues to produce a very capable browser, but it's now 3rd or fourth fiddle on a s…
What are the other competing browsers? There's chrome(and the derivatives), safari, firefox? safari exists only because of ios lockin. Aren't most other browsers an increasingly smaller share? Genuine question.
Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox is pretty cool. Use it every day. Blocks ads Multi account containers Dev tools very good I never notice that it is in any way slow, except for those sites that need infinity cpu on any browser, like jira. What specifically is the issue? To my mind it quietly just gets on with things.
In contrast, the Multi-Account Containers system is the primary reason I avoid Firefox. While it is meant to be an alternative to Chrome's profile switching, it is more a workaround than a complete replacement. I need entirely different sets of extensions for personal, work, and school environments, something containers can't do. Firefox's actual profile support is beyond terrible. To launch a separate instance, Fire…
This is not meant to be an alternative for Chrome's profile switching. It's a different use case entirely.
As you yourself mention, Firefox has actual profile support, which may not be as good as Chrome's, but at least compare like for like.