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Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

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Post by mgraczyk »

ceejayoz wrote: post #49
mgraczyk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except this hasn't happened with electricity, cars, washing machines, smartphones, smart watches, Bluetooth headphones, ... Not all technology is bad

It has absolutely happened with those things. Cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sceLsLkQf7A Fridges: https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/samsung-family-hub-refrigerat... I'm not aware of a smart watch doing first-party ads yet.

I didn't list fridges because I've seen ads there, but these seem to have gone away in newer models (people don't like ads)

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

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Post by lexoj »

bakugo wrote: post #36

On one hand, I hate how much of a hype-driven commercial product Laravel is, and how many novice developers learn bad practices from its awful architecture. On the other hand, this "problem" only affects vibe coders who weren't writing any code themselves anyway, so I say let them suffer.

I don’t do laravel but which bad practices are you referring to?

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

#53

Post by ivraatiems »

boothby wrote: post #32

When the early adopters start pushing neural implants they'll be ad-free. Not long after your boss insists that everybody needs neural implants for the sake of productivity, they'll be ad-supported but moneyed developers will be able to opt out. The terms of the ad-free service will continue shifting, so nothing is ever really ad-free for long, and ads for better neural implants are promotions not ads right? But y'al…

I think this was the plot of a Black Mirror episode?

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

#54

Post by DonsDiscountGas »

ceejayoz wrote: post #49
mgraczyk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except this hasn't happened with electricity, cars, washing machines, smartphones, smart watches, Bluetooth headphones, ... Not all technology is bad

It has absolutely happened with those things. Cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sceLsLkQf7A Fridges: https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/samsung-family-hub-refrigerat... I'm not aware of a smart watch doing first-party ads yet.

The existence of a single crappy car does not mean all cars are crappy

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

#55

Post by ceejayoz »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #54
ceejayoz wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has absolutely happened with those things. Cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sceLsLkQf7A Fridges: https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/samsung-family-hub-refrigerat... I'm not aware of a smart watch doing first-party ads yet.

The existence of a single crappy car does not mean all cars are crappy

Sure.

But the existence of a single crappy car establishes very definitively that a crappy car can and does exist.

Do you think Samsung's the only company that's gonna play with ads on their smart fridges?

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

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Post by dgrin91 »

mgraczyk wrote: post #48
boothby wrote: post #32

When the early adopters start pushing neural implants they'll be ad-free. Not long after your boss insists that everybody needs neural implants for the sake of productivity, they'll be ad-supported but moneyed developers will be able to opt out. The terms of the ad-free service will continue shifting, so nothing is ever really ad-free for long, and ads for better neural implants are promotions not ads right? But y'al…

Except this hasn't happened with electricity, cars, washing machines, smartphones, smart watches, Bluetooth headphones, ... Not all technology is bad

Electricity I don't know how you could deliver ads through, but if someone could think of a way I bet they would. If everyone knew Morris code I bet they would make the lights flicker in Morris code for a discount.

Modern cars with connected infotainment systems are always trying to upsell you

Washing machines I dont know of anything at the moment, but I wouldnt count it out.

Smartphones/watches? Aren't those just ad delivery mechanisms? Not to mention tracking? Its a core foundation of modern ad technology

Headphones are not thank god, I hope it stays that way

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

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Post by ceejayoz »

mgraczyk wrote: post #51
ceejayoz wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has absolutely happened with those things. Cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sceLsLkQf7A Fridges: https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/samsung-family-hub-refrigerat... I'm not aware of a smart watch doing first-party ads yet.

I didn't list fridges because I've seen ads there, but these seem to have gone away in newer models (people don't like ads)

My washing machine's app (LG) has ads, recipes, rewards programs, etc.

I think the main thing preventing it on the device itself is they haven't thus far needed a large screen to show them on.

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

#58

Post by ceejayoz »

lexoj wrote: post #52
bakugo wrote: post #36

On one hand, I hate how much of a hype-driven commercial product Laravel is, and how many novice developers learn bad practices from its awful architecture. On the other hand, this "problem" only affects vibe coders who weren't writing any code themselves anyway, so I say let them suffer.

I don’t do laravel but which bad practices are you referring to?

50/50 chance it's a complaint about Facades, heh.

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

#59

Post by mgraczyk »

dgrin91 wrote: post #56
mgraczyk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except this hasn't happened with electricity, cars, washing machines, smartphones, smart watches, Bluetooth headphones, ... Not all technology is bad

Electricity I don't know how you could deliver ads through, but if someone could think of a way I bet they would. If everyone knew Morris code I bet they would make the lights flicker in Morris code for a discount. Modern cars with connected infotainment systems are always trying to upsell you Washing machines I dont know of anything at the moment, but I wouldnt count it out. Smartphones/watches? Aren't those just ad…

I've never seen an ad delivered through any of these things. On smartphones I mean the phone/OS itself

It would be very easy to deliver ads via electricity. The utility could require you watch an ad before using more

Re: Laravel raised money and now injects ads directly into your agent

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Post by ceejayoz »

mgraczyk wrote: post #59
dgrin91 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electricity I don't know how you could deliver ads through, but if someone could think of a way I bet they would. If everyone knew Morris code I bet they would make the lights flicker in Morris code for a discount. Modern cars with connected infotainment systems are always trying to upsell you Washing machines I dont know of anything at the moment, but I wouldnt count it out. Smartphones/watches? Aren't those just ad…

I've never seen an ad delivered through any of these things. On smartphones I mean the phone/OS itself It would be very easy to deliver ads via electricity. The utility could require you watch an ad before using more

Or via your smart thermostat.

https://sense.com/consumer-blog/with-your-permission-utiliti...

(Morse code messages via your flickering lights would be a hilarious app, and I'm somewhat reluctant to mention it here before someone gets VC funding to actually try it.)

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