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Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by ACCount37 »

senko wrote: post #221
ACCount37 wrote: post #80

> We are releasing Opus 4.7 with safeguards that automatically detect and block requests that indicate prohibited or high-risk cybersecurity uses. Fucking hell. Opus was my go-to for reverse engineering and cybersecurity uses, because, unlike OpenAI's ChatGPT, Anthropic's Opus didn't care about being asked to RE things or poke at vulns. It would, however, shit a brick and block requests every time something remotely…

From the article: > Security professionals who wish to use Opus 4.7 for legitimate cybersecurity purposes (such as vulnerability research, penetration testing, and red-teaming) are invited to join our new Cyber Verification Program.

Yeah no. They can fuck right off with KYC humiliation rituals.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by johnmlussier »

johnmlussier wrote: post #227

They've increased their cybersecurity usage filters to the point that Opus 4.7 refuses to work on any valid work, even after web fetching the program guidelines itself and acknowledging "This is authorized research under the [Redacted] Bounty program, so the findings here are defensive research outputs, not malware. I'll analyze and draft, not weaponize anything beyond what's needed to prove the bug to [Redacted]. I…

  ⎿  API Error: Claude Code is unable to respond to this request, which appears to violate our Usage Policy (https://www.anthropic.com/legal/aup). This request triggered restrictions on violative cyber content and was blocked under Anthropic's 
     Usage Policy. To request an adjustment pursuant to our Cyber Verification Program based on how you use Claude, fill out                                                                                                                        
     https://claude.com/form/cyber-use-case?token=[REDACTED] Please double press esc to edit your last message or 
     start a new session for Claude Code to assist with a different task. If you are seeing this refusal repeatedly, try running /model claude-sonnet-4-20250514 to switch models.
This is gonna kill everything I've been working on. I have several reproduced items at [REDACTED] that I've been working on.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by brenoRibeiro706 »

vintagedave wrote: post #228
buildbot wrote: post #12

Too late, personally after how bad 4.6 was the past week I was pushed to codex, which seems to mostly work at the same level from day to day. Just last night I was trying to get 4.6 to lookup how to do some simple tensor parallel work, and the agent used 0 web fetches and just hallucinated 17K very wrong tokens. Then the main agent decided to pretend to implement tp, and just copied the entire model to each node...

Same. I stopped my Pro subscription yesterday after entering the week with 70% of my tokens used by Monday morning (on light, small weekend projects, things I had worked on in the past and barely noticed a dent in usage.) Support was... unhelpful. It's been funny watching my own attitude to Anthropic change, from being an enthusiastic Claude user to pure frustration. But even that wasn't the trigger to leave, it was…

Same here, working with claude code has been unproductive since March; everyone on my team has complained about the decline in claude code quality, which is why we’re switching to Codex.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by redml »

aliljet wrote: post #64

Have they effectively communicated what a 20x or 10x Claude subscription actually means? And with Claude 4.7 increasing usage by 1.35x does that mean a 20x plan is now really a 13x plan (no token increase on the subscription) or a 27x plan (more tokens given to compensate for more computer cost) relative to Claude Opus 4.6?

a few months ago it was for weekly:

pro = 5m tokens, 5x = 41m tokens, 20x = 83m tokens

making 5x the best value for the money (8.33x over pro for max 5x). this information may be outdated though, and doesn't apply to the new on peak 5h multipliers. anything that increases usage just burns through that flat token quota faster.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by jeffrwells »

Reminder that 4.7 may seem like a huge upgrade to 4.6 because they nerfed the F out of 4.6 ahead of this launch so 4.7 would seem like a remarkable improvement...

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by johnmlussier »

ACCount37 wrote: post #80

> We are releasing Opus 4.7 with safeguards that automatically detect and block requests that indicate prohibited or high-risk cybersecurity uses. Fucking hell. Opus was my go-to for reverse engineering and cybersecurity uses, because, unlike OpenAI's ChatGPT, Anthropic's Opus didn't care about being asked to RE things or poke at vulns. It would, however, shit a brick and block requests every time something remotely…

Incredible - in one fell swoop killing my entire use case for Claude.

I have about 15 submissions that I now need to work with Codex on cause this "smarter" model refuses to read program guidelines and take them seriously.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by bisonbear »

yanis_t wrote: post #25

> where previous models interpreted instructions loosely or skipped parts entirely, Opus 4.7 takes the instructions literally. Users should re-tune their prompts and harnesses accordingly. interesting

coming more in line with codex - claude previously would often ignore explicit instructions that codex would follow. interested to see how this feels in practice

I think this line around "context tuning" is super interesting - I see a future where, for every model release, devs go and update their CLAUDE.md / skills to adapt to new model behavior.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by zamalek »

aurareturn wrote: post #38
buildbot wrote: post #12

Too late, personally after how bad 4.6 was the past week I was pushed to codex, which seems to mostly work at the same level from day to day. Just last night I was trying to get 4.6 to lookup how to do some simple tensor parallel work, and the agent used 0 web fetches and just hallucinated 17K very wrong tokens. Then the main agent decided to pretend to implement tp, and just copied the entire model to each node...

Funny because many people here were so confident that OpenAI is going to collapse because of how much compute they pre-ordered. But now it seems like it's a major strategic advantage. They're 2x'ing usage limits on Codex plans to steal CC customers and it seems to be working. I'm seeing a lot of goodwill for Codex and a ton of bad PR for CC. It seems like 90% of Claude's recent problems are strictly lack of compute r…

> It seems like 90% of Claude's recent problems are strictly lack of compute related.

Downtime is annoying, but the problem is that over the past 2-3 weeks Claude has been outrageously stupid when it does work. I have always been skeptical of everything produced - but now I have no faith whatsoever in anything that it produces. I'm not even sure if I will experiment with 4.7, unless there are glowing reviews.

Codex has had none of these problems. I still don't trust anything it produces, but it's not like everything it produces is completely and utterly useless.

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