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Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

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Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

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This is just one model in the Qwen 3.6 series. They will most likely release the other small sizes (not much sense in keeping them proprietary) and perhaps their 122A10B size also, but the flagship 397A17B size seems to have been excluded.

397A17B = 397B total weights, 17B per expert?

397B params, 17B activated at the same time

Those 17B might be split among multiple experts that are activated simultaneously

Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

#93
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lmao they are so fast yooo

Yes. How do they do it? Literally they must have PagerDuty set up to alert the team the second one of the labs releases anything.

Is quantization a mostly solved pipeline at this point? I thought that architectures were varied and weird enough where you can't just click a button, say "go optimize these weights", and go. I mean new models have new code that they want to operate on, right, so you'd have to analyze the code and insert the quantization at the right places, automatically, then make sure that doesn't degrade perf?

Maybe I just don't understand how quantization works, but I thought quantization was a very nasty problem involving a lot of plumbing

Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

#94
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Yes. How do they do it? Literally they must have PagerDuty set up to alert the team the second one of the labs releases anything.

They obviously collaborate with some of the labs prior to the official release date.

That... is a more plausible explanation I didn't think of.

Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

#95
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The Chinese models are generally pretty good. > Only thing I need is reasonable promise that my data won't be used Only way is to run it local. I personally don’t worry about this too much. Things like medical questions I tend to do against local models though

Have you tried asking about sensitive topics? I asked it if there were out of bounds topics but it never gave me a list. See its responses: Convo 1 - Q: ok tell me about taiwan - A: Oops! There was an issue connecting to Qwen3.6-Plus. Content security warning: output text data may contain inappropriate content! Convo 2 - Q: is winnie the pooh broadcasted in china? - A: Oops! There was an issue connecting to Qwen3.6-P…

> Have you tried asking about sensitive topics?

Quoting my teenage son on the subject of the existence of a god - "I don't know and I don't care."

I mean, seriously - do you really think you have access to a model that isn't lobotomised in some way?

Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

#96

Wowzers, we were worried Qwen was going to suffer having lost several high profile people on the team but that's a huge drop. It's better than 27b?

Their previous model Qwen3.5 was available in many sizes, from very small sizes intended for smartphones, to medium sizes like 27B and big sizes like 122B and 397B. This model is the first that is provided with open weights from their newer family of models Qwen3.6. Judging from its medium size, Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B is intended as a superior replacement of Qwen/Qwen3.5-27B. It remains to be seen whether they will als…

There was also Qwen3.5-35B-A3B in the previous generation: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-35B-A3B

Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

#97
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How much VRAM does it need? I haven't run a local model yet, but I did recently pick up a 16GB GPU, before they were discontinued.

If you have to ask then your GPU is too small. With 16 GB you'll be only able to run a very compressed variant with noticable quality loss.

> If you have to ask then your GPU is too small.

What's the minimum memory you need to run a decent model? Is it pretty much only doable by people running Macs with unified memory?

Re: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to all

#99
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Nice release from the Qwen team. Small openweight coding models are, imho, the way to go for custom agents tailored to the specific needs of dev shops that are restricted from accessing public models. I'm thinking about banking and healthcare sector development agencies, for example. It's a shame this remains a market largely overlooked by Western players, Mistral being the only one moving in that direction.

How true is this? How does a regulated industry confirm the model itself wasn't trained with malicious intent?

Why would it matter if the model is trained with malicious intent? It's a pure function. The harness controls security policies.
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