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"I'm one of the few people you'll meet who's written more books than they've read."

— Garth Marenghi.

He was a great author and visionary of his time. If only he had had access to LLMs...

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Text can have all of the following conditions:

human written, valuable, not slop human written, not valuable, not slop human written, valuable, slop human written, not valuable, slop ai written, valuable, not slop ai written, not valuable, not slop ai written, valuable, slop ai written, not valuable, slop

I don't think that valuable and slop are opposites, nor that ai written means slop.

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"I'm one of the few people you'll meet who's written more books than they've read." — Garth Marenghi. He was a great author and visionary of his time. If only he had had access to LLMs...

haha interesting idea, I wonder if anyone real is actually close to that

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Written by an entrepreneur who is "currently building Ritza, a technical writing agency."

Really 100% of the time there is a direct motive for the increasingly clever AI articles that say "human output is no different!"

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Written by an entrepreneur who is "currently building Ritza, a technical writing agency." Really 100% of the time there is a direct motive for the increasingly clever AI articles that say "human output is no different!"

if you read it, you'll see I say that a lot of AI generated output is good which is directly against the commercial interest you accuse me of having.

yes, writing and engineering is my profession, so I'm interested in LLMs and ... I write about them?

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Written by an entrepreneur who is "currently building Ritza, a technical writing agency." Really 100% of the time there is a direct motive for the increasingly clever AI articles that say "human output is no different!"

if you read it, you'll see I say that a lot of AI generated output is good which is directly against the commercial interest you accuse me of having. yes, writing and engineering is my profession, so I'm interested in LLMs and ... I write about them?

This overlap is frequently a threat to many people here. For whatever reason, unlike every other profession on earth, writing about the thing you're an expert/interested in while making money from it (or even the potential to make money) is frowned upon. Disregard it.

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> if you edit those [LLM tropes] out, or ignore them, you can’t really argue that the writing produced by these models is objectively ‘bad’ any more.

Well, it isn't good either and that's the problem. It's just average.

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> if you edit those [LLM tropes] out, or ignore them, you can’t really argue that the writing produced by these models is objectively ‘bad’ any more.

> or ignore them

If you ignore the bad thing then the bad thing is good. What the fuck are you talking about?

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> if you edit those [LLM tropes] out, or ignore them, you can’t really argue that the writing produced by these models is objectively ‘bad’ any more. Well, it isn't good either and that's the problem. It's just average.

I think that's a valid take, just one I disagree with in the article. I think a lot of it is average or bad, but a lot of it is good too.

And some of it is good, but has the annoying tropes, so removing them is enough.

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